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[Bionca]

That statement is absolutely true. Men, who have achieved great things, who are really macho, even they feel nerous about what other people will think. The Transwomen wage a lifelong war on such concepts. Thats why I admire them so much. (I dont play pocket pool, though! )[/QUOTE]

I don't buy that for a minute!! - hands above the table gents!!!

To be serious, I think this is part of the problem with seriously dating a trans* woman. Partly because guys are scared of what people think, and partly because by the time a TG is "full time" she's been through a little personal slice of hell. I know that I get angry, cranky, upset ... down right pissed when I hear about a friend whose date "isn't comfortable in public with her". I figure she's had to become comfortable in public with herself 24/7, and some guy can't muster the sack to spend a few hours??. It's that fear and the expectations on both sides of the date that make it difficult (at least in the West).

[sesame]

I don't have the elegant vernacular of writers such as you, Marlowe or Bionca

Hank! Come on, my friend, get off it.
I love to read your posts. They have substance.

[Well, most of Hankhavelock's posts have original material.
Some are too original, like the one about volcanic spunk
Still Hank is a good writer, he has clarity and balls to speak up]

[ila]

Originally Posted by Bionca

To be serious, I think this is part of the problem with seriously dating a trans* woman. Partly because guys are scared of what people think, and partly because by the time a TG is "full time" she's been through a little personal slice of hell. I know that I get angry, cranky, upset ... down right pissed when I hear about a friend whose date "isn't comfortable in public with her". I figure she's had to become comfortable in public with herself 24/7, and some guy can't muster the sack to spend a few hours??. It's that fear and the expectations on both sides of the date that make it difficult (at least in the West).

Not everyone is scared of what others think. I don't care at all what someone else would think or say if I was out with a TG.
My biggest concern would be for the girl when others would say "What the heck is she doing out with him"

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by Bionca

To be serious, I think this is part of the problem with seriously dating a trans* woman. Partly because guys are scared of what people think, and partly because by the time a TG is "full time" she's been through a little personal slice of hell.

Yep, part of the problem. But I sense that an equally big part of the problem is that they may be scared of themselves and their attraction - OMG!!!! Am I gay??? The question you encounter constantly.