Barack Obama

[jimnaseum]

(sigh) Eisenhower learned about nation-building by taking Nazi Germany apart. He had a real fondness for their Autobahn and replicated it in the US in the fifties. It's still a large part of our commerce and economy INFRASTRUCTURE. He also made it a point to parade the German townspeople through the concentration camps because "They'll try to say this never happened" THEY were the Industrial Military Complex he warned us about.
The Industrial Military Complex is a very important part of the Republican Party. They have a Propoganda machine and factories and ideas and plans. There followers are very loyal.
The Obama is going to show everyone that we didn't need IraqII and that we didn't need Cheney. We don't need to serve BIG OIL. The Obama is going to REDISTRIBUTE the money to the PEOPLE. He's going to do EXACTLY what the Republicans SAID they wanted to do, but never had any intention to do.
Haven't Fox viewers ever seen that Republican plans for a Rich Vital America always lean toward giving power to the rich and powerful? Obama's the new Sherriff in town. He gonna tear that Fox Station DOWN!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

The Obama is going to REDISTRIBUTE the money to the PEOPLE. He's going to do EXACTLY what the Republicans SAID they wanted to do, but never had any intention to do.

I'm a PEOPLE. Certainly not one of those who make over $200,000. And BO will be taking money away from me. So much for that plan.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

(sigh) Eisenhower learned about nation-building by taking Nazi Germany apart. He had a real fondness for their Autobahn and replicated it in the US in the fifties. It's still a large part of our commerce and economy INFRASTRUCTURE. He also made it a point to parade the German townspeople through the concentration camps because "They'll try to say this never happened" THEY were the Industrial Military Complex he warned us about.
The Industrial Military Complex is a very important part of the Republican Party. They have a Propoganda machine and factories and ideas and plans. There followers are very loyal.
The Obama is going to show everyone that we didn't need IraqII and that we didn't need Cheney. We don't need to serve BIG OIL. The Obama is going to REDISTRIBUTE the money to the PEOPLE. He's going to do EXACTLY what the Republicans SAID they wanted to do, but never had any intention to do.
Haven't Fox viewers ever seen that Republican plans for a Rich Vital America always lean toward giving power to the rich and powerful? Obama's the new Sherriff in town. He gonna tear that Fox Station DOWN!

Jimbo, Hitler's naziism and conservatism are not related. He's more closely related to Progressives of the early 1900s and their re-emergence under Obama. The Nazis aimed to control every aspect of its citizens lives. That sounds more like the universal health care they tried to pass (something hitler wanted), and like how they're taking control of industries. Nazis were a cradle to grave welfare state. At the beginning Hitler's right-hand man Johseph Gobells claimed that Lenin was a great man 2nd only to Hitler, and that the differences between Naziism and Communism was very slight. In the late 19th century to the early 1900s upper class british and US progressives embraced eugenics, saying millions had to be marched off into gas chambers and liquidated. George Bernard Shaw said we should play classical music while people are marched into the gas chamber. The Germans didn't invent genocide, they only perfected it and actually put it into practice. So how are the Nazis more like right wingers?

[jimnaseum]

Tracy, I'm BAITING you with the race and right wing nazi crap, and Randolph, those 800 word essays hurt my comic book mind. I did see in the paper today that deficits have been THE norm in the modern era I think they could have surplus they really wanted to, but that would just mean some needy people didn't get funded. Which brings me to the mystery of what Obama really is up to.
If he cannot turn around jobs by October, uh oh. He's got MOST of the stimulus left to spend, so he can pour that into the economy through small business inticements, I bought a new Honda last summer, $4500 off!
I didn't even want a new car! When it comes to people, I'm a commie. When it comes to cash, I'm John Dillinger. I don't see any conflict with that.
Here's the thing- What you see about Obama is what he wants you to see. Bush was too stupid and corrupt to pull that off, anyway, he took orders from The Skull and Crossbones guys. Obama is smart as shit and I swear to God he is trying to do the right thing for this country, but he's got cards in his hand nobody knows about. THAT IS THE STORY HERE. He's not playing the EXCITING cards yet, and Republicans have cards too. Hillary would never be as AUDACIOUS as Obama. Before this whole thing is over, your going to see Obama throw down some WILD CARDS!!! Sean Hannity will be pissing his pants!
PS Tracy, my hate and total disgust for Fox news is totally genuine.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Tracy, I'm BAITING you with the race and right wing nazi crap

Ok, you never know who you're dealing with on here.

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

If he cannot turn around jobs by October, uh oh. He's got MOST of the stimulus left to spend, so he can pour that into the economy through small business inticements, I bought a new Honda last summer, $4500 off!
I didn't even want a new car! When it comes to people, I'm a commie. When it comes to cash, I'm John Dillinger. I don't see any conflict with that.
Here's the thing- What you see about Obama is what he wants you to see. Bush was too stupid and corrupt to pull that off, anyway, he took orders from The Skull and Crossbones guys. Obama is smart as shit and I swear to God he is trying to do the right thing for this country, but he's got cards in his hand nobody knows about. THAT IS THE STORY HERE. He's not playing the EXCITING cards yet, and Republicans have cards too. Hillary would never be as AUDACIOUS as Obama. Before this whole thing is over, your going to see Obama throw down some WILD CARDS!!! Sean Hannity will be pissing his pants!
PS Tracy, my hate and total disgust for Fox news is totally genuine.

It doesn't matter what cards he has. The bottom line is he's burying this country in debt.

BTW, you owe me .00128 cents for your Honda.

[Talvenada]

TRACY:

Conse 'Pubs feel they have every right to be outraged if Obama drops $10,000 to go to the theater, but $2B is ONLY $2B.

Do you feel that people have the right to demand Obama's birth certificate?

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Conse 'Pubs feel they have every right to be outraged if Obama drops $10,000 to go to the theater, but $2B is ONLY $2B.

Are you being willfully ignorant? What potential benefit to our economy is there if BO goes to the theater?

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Do you feel that people have the right to demand Obama's birth certificate?

Why not? When anyone is hired they have to show their social security card. Not a website with an image of it... the actual card. The requirements for president are that you have to be a US citizen among other things. This is just procedure and shouldn't be an issue.

When BO fouled up the words to the oath of office, he retook the oath soon after. That wasn't even required. He went above and beyond procedure just to remove any ammunition from critics. If he's conscious of how something like that is perceived, I think it's odd that he wouldn't even follow procedure in another case.

[jimnaseum]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

This is just procedure and shouldn't be an issue.

Jeez, the hustle never ends.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Are you being willfully ignorant? What potential benefit to our economy is there if BO goes to the theater?

Why not? When anyone is hired they have to show their social security card. Not a website with an image of it... the actual card. The requirements for president are that you have to be a US citizen among other things. This is just procedure and shouldn't be an issue.

When BO fouled up the words to the oath of office, he retook the oath soon after. That wasn't even required. He went above and beyond procedure just to remove any ammunition from critics. If he's conscious of how something like that is perceived, I think it's odd that he wouldn't even follow procedure in another case.

TRACY:

I think you should review the tape. It was Roberts who flubbed the oath.

If Obama has to prove he's an American, Conse 'Pubs will back off of nothing, because they have not even backed off of that.

So, Obama cannot spend a dime on himself, but only on things Conse 'Pubs want? No wonder you want him impeached and convicted.

TAL

[jimnaseum]

Don't bet against Obama.
Once this Insurance Bill is passed in ANY form, you'll have Schools, Social Security, Healthcare. All paid for in the budget. Once the people get it, they're not going to give it up, unamerican or not. Republicans will rise again, eventually, but with rising healthcare costs, education costs, retirement costs, there won't be much pie left to steal.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Don't bet against Obama.
Once this Insurance Bill is passed in ANY form, you'll have Schools, Social Security, Healthcare. All paid for in the budget. Once the people get it, they're not going to give it up, unamerican or not. Republicans will rise again, eventually, but with rising healthcare costs, education costs, retirement costs, there won't be much pie left to steal.

If you buy something with your credit card, you don't consider it paid for do you? LOL

If the budget isn't balanced, it's not all paid for. And these costs will show up again and again in up coming budgets. And you're right. Once they're in there, they are there to stay. The debt will skyrocket. It will be clearly impossible for the US to repay the debt. China and other countries will see this and stop buying our debt. They will decouple their economies from the US dollar and our economy will implode.

This is the obvious conclusion, so the only thing that makes sense is that you want this for some reason?