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10-04-2008
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Offend away,
You are right and wrong, the economy is ALWAYS job#1 after keeping us out of a nuclear war. Obama will raise taxes on the rich only, and actually thats just a re-ajustment from Damn Bush's hijinx, the middle class is the motor of the economy and that's who needs tax relief. When you cut taxes for everyone, what you really do is end up having to borrow billions from the Chinese, and end up paying one trillion to Wall St. The rich people don't pay that back (with interest) the middle class pays it back for the next thirty years. As far as the stock market goes, even the crooked damn politicians are afraid of the games that get played there. You have to stand in awe of those pricks. Last edited by jimnaseum; 10-05-2008 at 12:07 AM. |
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10-05-2008
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I could argue with you, but I'm not. If it's not you, it's millions more begging for a socialist America. I though this was a country where people wanted to make their own destiny. Maybe we all want the government to come be our mommy now. The country is what it is. I guess we'll find out what that is in 30 days.
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#3
10-05-2008
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At worst, it is an economic disaster just waiting to happen... First, I love how Obama still claims that "95% of all Americans will get a tax break if I'm elected." That's rather interesting since 100% of the people DO NOT even participate in the tax-paying pool to begin with. Currently, a whopping 41% of the public get refunds every year OR they don't pay AT ALL due to their income level. So how Obama can give a tax break to 95% of all Americans when only 59% are paying taxes to begin with is something that should send a shiver up your spine. Because when someone starts off doing their math that shitty, that's when you should start getting nervous. In fact, let's look at who really pays the taxes in America. I know everyone loves to point fingers at the other guy, but this is how it actually breaks down... The wealthiest 1% earn 19% of the income, but they also pay 37% of the taxes. In short, percentage wise, for as much as they take in, they pay twice out... The top 10% pay 60% of the tab.... The other 50% earn 13% of the income but pay only 3% of the taxes. Hey, I'm certainly not rich, but looking at the numbers it's impossible to deny that they pay more than a fair share. Hell, look at that last figure again and think about that: 50% of the people -- that's right, HALF of the people living here -- only help to cover 3% of the government's expenses. No wonder things like social security are bankrupt! Talk about disproportions! Look, here's the truth about Obama and his Robin Hood-like 95% tax break for all: If he gets elected, he wants to send you 500 bucks. Yes, that's what it boils down to. His brilliant tax plan is nothing more than a rerun of the Bush $300 "give back" stimulus check that we all received this past year, the only difference being Obama wants to toss in an extra 200 bucks. Unfortunately, there's a problem with that, and I'll use myself as an example... I pay about $160 a month for my combined AT&T phone/cell phone/DSL bill, and I pay about $40 for my DirecTV service -- so let's just call it an even 200 bucks. That means if Obama sends me $500 as my "tax break" , I can apply it towards those two things and basically get free phone and TV for 2 months. And that's it. That was the astounding financial break that was somehow supposed to help me out for an entire year. Meanwhile, every other cost that I have...rent, gas, food, electricity...are still going UP, costing me about $100 (or so) a month extra. So nice going, Barack: you gave me $500 back...I paid my phone/cable bill...but meanwhile at the exact same time I had to shell out an additional $250, thus instantly cutting the value of your tax relief in half. In short, I don't consider giving me $500 to deal with a $750 swing very helpful. Because as I said it only helps for 2 months, after which I'm screwed for the other 10 months of the year. And just like a late night commercial that screams at you: BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!!! Obama's brilliant plan also re-defines "income" by now adding small business assets into the tax pool. So, as an example, if you had your own private limousine company -- let's say you had 2 or 3 cars running around in service -- under current tax law your income would be defined as the money you made from renting them out, from making money by driving people around (businessmen, prom kids, whatever). And you could likewise deduct certain costs (like gas, the price of cleaning a driver's suit, etc). Well, that sounds right. After all, that's the way we've defined income for ages. But under Obama's whacked-out plan he wants to ADD IN those things. To Obama, if you were running that same limousine company, then the worth of the cars should count as income TOO since technically (in his view) you could sell them and make money. So since they have a worth they should be taxable, right? And that's the utter insanity of the Obama tax plan. He actually wants to redefine assets as "income" -- which, trust me, will translate into tax hikes across the board. And that's how he's really planning to come up with the $350 BILLION he wants for all-new programs. So you can bank on this: a lot of small business owners who would normally laugh out loud over the assertion that they clear $200,000 a year (and thus cross the Obama tax hike line) are going to be in for a big shock when Obama comes knocking to say, "I added things up and technically (in my view) you cross the $200,000 line. So pay up. You owe me more money." Look, I'm not saying Obama isn't a personable guy. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't vote for him. That's up to each and every person to choose for themselves. But if you think a dyed-in-the-wool ultra Liberal like Obama who loves big government social programs is ONLY going to raise taxes "on the rich" -- especially now when the country ALSO has to come up with $700 Billion to bail out Wall Street (and even that is a low estimate since most economists believe it will take at least double that to fix the market) -- then you're kidding yourself. |
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10-05-2008
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There was a telling photograph of Obama standing with all of Clinton's Economic advisors. All the Republicans said Clinton's plan wouldn't work, remember? The final American consumer pays for EVERYTHING. When you buy a coke from a vending machine, you pay for Coca Cola's taxes, the tin can maker's taxes, and the truck driver's taxes.
The Rich people don't get their money from working 68 hours a day, they bleed it from the American consumer. If the average Joe Six-pack is broke, then everything gets broke. Big Business will get all your money anyway. A consumer with bucks is the key to a healthy Financial USA. |
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#5
10-05-2008
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Bill Ayers, who lead terrorist group Weather Underground Organization, bombed police departments and government buildings including the Pentagon and US Capitol as part of their war on the US, found more stealthy ways to carry out his agenda via the CAC. The money didn't go to schools. It went to leftist, anti-capitalist activist groups that schools would have to affiliate with. One of those groups was ACORN, which was busted on a number of voter fraud charges, and pressured mortgage companies to make loans to people, especially minorities, who basically had no chance of paying them off (sound familiar?). The mortgage companies told them to go away, until Bill Clinton began rating mortgage companies with the CRA rating (Community Reinvestment Act created by Carter). Mortgage companies then had to suddenly give out all kinds of bad loans to get a high CRA rating. Which of course leads us to where we are today, which is spending $700 billion to bail out the fallout of this mess, and avert another great depression. Hey, if Obama is elected, do you think he'll tell mortgage companies to stop making bad loans to minorities? LOL fat chance. Then of course, he'll raise taxes on businesses, so all these factors combine into sort of a perfect storm for financial disaster. So this is only the beginning. But yeah, great picture you mentioned. It just needs Carter & Ayers to be truly complete.
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10-05-2008
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Obama was eight when Ayers was Radical. He does great things for schoolkids now.
Everything Bush has touched has gone to shit. Unless you're rich. The RNC owns McCain just like they owned Bush. Can you say "Keating Five?" Do you really want 4 more years? OF the People, FOR the People, BY the People.....Damn Liberals...... |
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10-05-2008
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Did I ever say that Obama and Ayers went around bombing things? No. Did I say that Obama knew Ayers back in 1968-1971? No. I said he worked with him around 1995. And I brought up the CAC organization they DID work on. Bill Ayers did not give up his war on capitalism in the 70s. He just changed the way he went about it. These so called great things they did for kids were for one, to indoctrinate a new generation with socialist propaganda, and two to legitimize the funding of radical left wing America hating groups. Are you going to completely ignore the fact that Obama was knee deep in many of the organizations pushing banks to make the bad loans that were the cause of today's near financial meltdown? Are you going to ignore the fact that Obama worked with a known terrorist on the terrorists latest project? Are you going to ignore the fact that Obama, in his short run as senator, received the 2nd highest campaign contributions from Fannie May & Freddie Mac, 2nd only to Chris Dodd who's been in Washington since 1975? Are you going to ignore the fact that Bush tried to warn congress about Fannie May & Freddie Mac 10 times from 2001 through 2007, and 17 times in 2008? Are you going to ignore the fact that McCain was cleared of any accusations related to the Keating Five? Yes, most likely. Because if history doesn't suit democrats, then democrats will lie and rewrite history, and repeat it over and over until everyone believes it. Michael Moore's film is a prime example of this. Also the stories that Bush somehow caused 9/11 (why?? and how??). And the stories saying Bush stole the 2000 election? And the stories that Bush steered Katrina into the poor areas of New Orleans with his top secret weather machines. Or stories that Bush had 5000 inmates killed and dumped the bodies in the Katrina aftermath. Or stories that Bush alone was responsible for the WMD screw up in Iraq, despite the fact that Albright, Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton, Jacques Chirac all insisted Saddam had WMD before Bush took office, as well as many other democrats on the intelligence committee and Clinton-appointed George Tenet of the CIA after Bush took office. And let's completely ignore the fact that tons of weaponized VX nerve gas from Iraq was found in Jordan shortly after the Iraq war started. Lets completely ignore all the progress that has been made during the Iraq war because the left has near total control of the media, hollywood, and universities. So now you know some of Obama's dirty past. You can lead a donkey to water, but you can't get him to admit it's there. Again, if it's not you, it's millions more begging for a socialist America. If Obama wins, it will be for all the accusations democrats make about Bush and capitalism - despite the fact that at least 80% of it can be clearly shown to be untrue.
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10-06-2008
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