Barack Obama

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

Such bullshit. I'm not a neocon. What I said I said out of a sense of patriotism. Since when should one nation allow the people of another to make decisions for it? That's stupid. That's the borderless world concept. What if Americans made the decisions for Brits? Frenchies? Canadians? How'd they like it if they didn't have say so over who becomes their leaders and government officials? Or couldn't have any say over things like taxes and property rights?

If you're going to reply to me with such a jackassed comment and insult don't bother. Anyone of any nation with half a mind would agree with me. You don't let foreigners elect your officials.

Yea, imagine if the US decided that it was going to make decisions for Iraqis, or Afghanis!


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Yes, only the people who are in the nation controlled by a government should vote for that government. So only Americans, Iraqis and Afganis should vote for the US president.

[Ogryn1313]

The Iraqis elected their own leaders you know. Made possible by removing Saddam Hussein. And, it seems the Iraqi's were quite happy being able to elect their own leaders. So much so that Kurds in the north even ran a television ad thanking the Americans for making it possible.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

The Iraqis elected their own leaders you know. Made possible by removing Saddam Hussein. And, it seems the Iraqi's were quite happy being able to elect their own leaders. So much so that Kurds in the north even ran a television ad thanking the Americans for making it possible.

The Iraqi parliament voted that the US should leave, the US are still there, that pretty much sums it up.

[Ogryn1313]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

The Iraqi parliament voted that the US should leave, the US are still there, that pretty much sums it up.

Because if we left precipitously Iraq would be in full civil war and likely invaded by Iran. Or at the lest Iran would install a puppet regime.

That's the typical comeback of a person who refuses to look at the big picture but rather complain about certain points.


On my other site people like you are in the majority. You might like it there. And in particular all the Brits do as you do. Every Brit I've ever encountered seems to have some kind of ignrance driven obsession with hating this nation. I've yet to find one Brit say one positive thing about America.

And I'm left to conclude it is because of two possible things: Brits are, by nature arrogant assholes who love to bitch and moan. Or, and I do hope this one is the reason, the people of England are bashing the United States to mask their insecurities about their own less than perfect nation. After all, it isn't as if England has a spotless and unblemished history and has always been the paragon of a virtuous nation. And as Tracy pointed out, England has had more effect on the Middle East than America.

So, could it be that the people of England, who bitch about America while ignoring their own "fuckeduppery" simply being insecure? Makes them feel a little better about their smile island nation?

Why is America having more effect now? Because America has more power, wealth and influence. It's no wonder when the shit hits the fan nations call on America long and pass on England.

Then consider history. England is sore they lost their colonies. And who stood to benefit the most from the Industrial Revolution? Not England. America. Because we made this our country. England lost its superpower status. And so when the Industrial Revolution happened all the vast resources of this nation were ours. England, on the other hand, by this time was a shrinking empire who depended, and still does, on trade from other nations to survive. England lacks the agricultural capacity and manufacturing capacity to be self-sufficient. Whereas, if America so desired, we could sever ties with other nations in the form of trade and be able to survive on our own resources with the exception of oil.

In other words: America is the big dog on the porch while England is the little waiting for scraps.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

Because if we left precipitously Iraq would be in full civil war and likely invaded by Iran. Or at the lest Iran would install a puppet regime.

You are an American, what business do you have in telling the Iraqis what is good for them?

[Ogryn1313]

Can't you do any better than that?

What business did the Brits have of forcing opium on China during the Opium War? Invading other countries and then colonizing them? And many other historical blemishes. How about criticizing merry old England for a spell?

You're proving me right, in regards to my previous comment. Even more so with useless equivalency.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

The answer is of course none. You are the one using useless equivalence. Your only argument in defence of the US is Britain did it first. When you're using the British empire as your justification, you're really getting desperate.

I'm against all imperialism, I'm not the one blowing smoke up the ass of my government, I hate them, I'm not looking to defend them.

You can carry your white man's burden alone, you will get no help from me.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Yea, imagine if the US decided that it was going to make decisions for Iraqis, or Afghanis!

Wasn't it the UK that redefined the borders of countries in the Mid East? That turned out real well.