i love tgirls but i love my gf. what do i do?!?!

[tslust]

Originally Posted by guiltydreamer

Cheat on her if you must, and see transsexuals for sex.

Don't hold back - post what's on your mind.

Okay, you asked for it. Firstly, I don't know how many times I've said that I can't stand guys who cheat on their wives. It's a matter of trust and sex is all about trust. If a guy is going to break his sacred vows and trust with his wife, how can I ever trust him to be honest with me. If he's so willing to throw his commitments to his wife away, then what would stop him from doing the same with me. Which is why I don't play with married guys.

"see the transsexuals for sex" I get a little tired of guys seeing me as a sex toy. Don't get me wrong, a little NSA fun can be nice, butt I'm at the point where I want something more. I want a guy who can see me as a person, an actual living breathing human being. While I like mind-blowing sex, I also enjoy having an actual conversation and having a fun time with a guy. Many guys (by no means all) are only interested in sex, they don't want any kind of relationship. Whereas they usually at least take a GG out for a dinner and show, and at least pretend to talk, with her while trying to steer the conversation towards the beedroom. They think I'll just automatically melt into their arms with that terrific thong-cracking line, "Hey, I've got a big cock." So, all I ask is a little consideration. Remember, just as with GGs, a little charm can take you a long way.

Further more, you shouldn't "see transsexuals for sex". That is a very terrible thing to say. Now I know there are a number of "working girls", butt still they deserve some respect too. I know that I'm probably just some sort of porn fetich to you (that's what I take away from you're statement). I you meet with a transsexual, it shoul be because you are attracted to her. If that leads to sex, then that's nice, butt sex should not be the only reason you want to see a girl like me.

[guiltydreamer]

Originally Posted by tslust

Okay, you asked for it. Firstly, I don't know how many times I've said that I can't stand guys who cheat on their wives. It's a matter of trust and sex is all about trust. If a guy is going to break his sacred vows and trust with his wife, how can I ever trust him to be honest with me. If he's so willing to throw his commitments to his wife away, then what would stop him from doing the same with me. Which is why I don't play with married guys.

"see the transsexuals for sex" I get a little tired of guys seeing me as a sex toy. Don't get me wrong, a little NSA fun can be nice, butt I'm at the point where I want something more. I want a guy who can see me as a person, an actual living breathing human being. While I like mind-blowing sex, I also enjoy having an actual conversation and having a fun time with a guy. Many guys (by no means all) are only interested in sex, they don't want any kind of relationship. Whereas they usually at least take a GG out for a dinner and show, and at least pretend to talk, with her while trying to steer the conversation towards the beedroom. They think I'll just automatically melt into their arms with that terrific thong-cracking line, "Hey, I've got a big cock." So, all I ask is a little consideration. Remember, just as with GGs, a little charm can take you a long way.

Further more, you shouldn't "see transsexuals for sex". That is a very terrible thing to say. Now I know there are a number of "working girls", butt still they deserve some respect too. I know that I'm probably just some sort of porn fetich to you (that's what I take away from you're statement). I you meet with a transsexual, it shoul be because you are attracted to her. If that leads to sex, then that's nice, butt sex should not be the only reason you want to see a girl like me.

Thank you for your post. I trust that you feel better now having got that off your chest.
Whilst I respect your right of reply and opinion ( which I did invite after all), your post is rather self obsessed.
Whilst my initial response to this thread does seem rather blunt and cold hearted, I am confused how you manage to interpret this as my having no respect for TS girls whom I choose to pay for sex. How do you know what level of respect I hold for someone - you base this assertion on a very brief statement.
You clearly do not approve of my behavior and choices. Fair enough, but please do not judge the full depth of my personality based on my sexual preferences alone.
I am not Proud of cheating on my wife, but hey, this real life not a work of romantic fiction and relationships fail - for a variety of reasons and it is very easy and rather lazy to single me out for lacking moral fibre. Check the statistics and see how many marriages fail. We have had 22 happy & good years together and both now realize that we want different things in our lives.
I wish you well with your life and search for a loving respectful life Partner, basically we all are looking for the same thing.

[guiltydreamer]

"Further more, you shouldn't "see transsexuals for sex". That is a very terrible thing to say...."

Why not FFS?? and what is so terrible about it??

The girls I see get paid the rate they stipulate. I go willingly, accepting their advertised offer of sexual services in exchange for money.

I am courteous, punctual, clean and respectful. Many times the sex is sensational, some times less so, but life is a lottery they say.

I am not looking for a TS life partner, but am highly attracted to a girl with a penis. I do not seek a loving relationship with a TS partner as I know for me this will not work (as far as I can speculate).

Just because my preferences and wants and needs do not correspond with yours does not mean that I am disrespectful to working girls, or any other girls whether TS or GG, so climb down off your high horse before you get a nose bleed.

And have a nice day.

Originally Posted by guiltydreamer

I am not looking for a TS life partner, but am highly attracted to a girl with a penis. I do not seek a loving relationship with a TS partner as I know for me this will not work (as far as I can speculate)

May I ask why you think a relationship with a trans girl won't work?

I mean the only difference between us and cis women, is they are able to give birth, but we are not. So if that's your reason, than yeah I can sort of understand that, though there's always the option of adoption.

[Ana Mancini]

Find the girl ( TGirl ) that is the biggest turn on to you, and one day call her into the room and show her. Just say look what I found. Make sure at some point she realizes that you are turned on. ( an erection at this point would be good ) Dont make a big deal out of it the first time. Then later show her another and make sure she sees you are turned on. Then one day tell her about a Dream you had and describe the dream. See how she reacts.

[EdwardSinclair]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

...though there's always the option of adoption.

Having studied genetics for a while, I could tell you that through recombinant DNA, adoption will not be your only option in the near future! The Science is advancing so fast, that it's possible for you to get a donated non-fertilized egg, remove it's DNA material (nucleus), and place your desired DNA material, in this case the tgirls. You'd then proceed to fertilizing the egg with the male gamete, and you'd need to find a surrogate mother of course! This has all already been possible for many years, but the ethical implications are numerous unfortunately.

It's also relevant to note, that cis women are at a clear advantage here, because even if men ceased to exist, women could live on by cloning themselves in this manner. Men would always need a surrogate mother of some kind!

I in fact I remember seeing such a society in one of the Cpt. Kirk's Star Trek episodes from back in the late 60's, not the best of references but it does prove that the theory is not new! Sci-fi's are great btw, first time I saw anything similar to ipads/mobile phones was on a Sci-fi (but I digress).

[EdwardSinclair]

I have tried to catch up with this thread:

It's clear this thread has brought up several sensitive issues that I have seen in other threads throughout this forum, and it gets old fast! There is absolutely no way we can educate everyone, and trying, just feels like a waste of positive energy!

I just can't stand seeing people bashing each other!

Having said that, the OP Dean needed help, and without judging anyone, here is a list of things that I think severely hurt a relationship (I have done them all at least once, so I am not pointing a finger):

Insensitivity
Gross disrespect for other peoples feelings, by doing and saying things without caring if it will hurt them or not! It gives a sense that you don't care about that person...

Lies
This is very important, because when we lie to others we also lie to ourselves! We limit maximum enjoyment of an activity out of guilt, and in the end we are the greatest losers! Furthermore, you fail to communicate how you feel, creating a barrier and distancing yourself from others! This may or may not give rise to Betrayal...

Betrayal
Gross misconduct, angels have been sent to hell for this, and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! Hardly any relationship will recover from this, and if it does, trust will always be an issue! Probably why some prefer to kiss and not tell...

Lack of Communication
Communication is the basis of a relationship, you may have sex, but when you are tired of it, you need a companion you can talk to. The lack of communication is detrimental to getting to know someone, or letting them know how you feel. It is aggravated by fights, and those times you don't want to talk out of spite...

I want to conclude with:
Be respectful to others, as you'd like them to be respectful to you!