Loneliness

[franalexes]

Been there, done that.
quickest way out,,,,,,
go to church and get involved.
everything will come into place.

[Enoch Root]

Church? Not so good for me. There is nothing to do here. It is the typical suburb: static, soulless, boring. There is no sense of community. For reference listen to Rush's "Subdivisions."

This is all strange to me, being driven to this point emotionally. Its been there for a long time, just never quite like this. Frankly, I feel silly that feel the way I feel, but I am also terrified of the obvious possibilities in the future.

[franalexes]

wrong start again, right from the "get-go".
It might not be what is good for you, maybe it's good for THEM.
Time spent serving others is more rewarding than sitting on your ass waiting for the world to come to you.

[ila]

You need more help than this site can provide. Fran has one possible solution for you. You need to talk to someone that can really listen to you and help to guide you. Regardless of what you think of churches a priest will listen to you and his service is free.

[Enoch Root]

It feels as if there are sentences missing from your posts. I'm not really sure what you're trying to tell me.

Am I under attack here?

[Enoch Root]

I'm just looking for a bit of support.

Should I just delete the thread? Can I even do that?

[ila]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It feels as if there are sentences missing from your posts. I'm not really sure what you're trying to tell me.

Am I under attack here?

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I'm just looking for a bit of support.

Should I just delete the thread? Can I even do that?

Why would you think that you are under attack? You wanted to express your feelings and find some support. Fran simply gave you one solution and I expanded on it slightly.

My main point though is that the members here are not qualified to give you professional help. Many members will gladly contribute to your thread and try to help you. Your best help though will come from someone who has the training and background in psychology and that person is best able to help on a face-to-face basis.

[Enoch Root]

Fran's tone seemed a bit dismissive. Maybe I'm reading them wrong. If I'm wrong: sorry.

[mabedzaqueen]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

For reference listen to Rush's "Subdivisions."

In my early twenties, long before I realized how much Freedom was important to me, music helped me a lot; not just listening to it, but also playing some of it... (Had the big chance of living in a house where there was a piano). I've never been talented, but relied on my "ears" and would spend evenings practicing until I was able to reproduce myself the beautiful melodies of my then-heroes (the Stones, the Who, the Beatles, the Kinks...) The thing is, it kept me busy and helped me appreciate this gift that life is, even though I was the skeleton-type no one wanted to be seen with...

**You didn't mention what music does for you; if it's just there to fill the silence or if it doesn't "play" with your emotions at all, then maybe disregard this post**

[randolph]

I would suggest that you don't need advice, what you need is understanding how your mind is deceiving you. The book titled "Now" by Eckhard Tolle is an excellent place to start. It is a compilation of much of the wisdom humans have compiled over the ages. It has worked for many people. Tolle is also on youtube but the book provides the insite that you need. Let the good person within you come forward and take control of your mind.

[smc]

Originally Posted by randolph

I would suggest that you don't need advice, what you need is understanding how your mind is deceiving you. The book titled "Now" by Eckhard Tolle is an excellent place to start. It is a compilation of much of the wisdom humans have compiled over the ages. It has worked for many people. Tolle is also on youtube but the book provides the insite that you need. Let the good person within you come forward and take control of your mind.

Enoch Root, I would advise you to tread very lightly with any "self-help" guru such as Eckhart (the correct spelling) Tolle, especially one endorsed by the Queen of the Facile, Oprah Winfrey. You don't need to enrich Tolle further to figure out what to do.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

Enoch Root, I would advise you to tread very lightly with any "self-help" guru such as Eckhart (the correct spelling) Tolle, especially one endorsed by the Queen of the Facile, Oprah Winfrey. You don't need to enrich Tolle further to figure out what to do.

Thank you for that piece of advice, smc. Ah yes, the dreaded Oprah recommendation. Perhaps the only good thing she has ever done was that William Faulkner box set. (Which oddly enough sits across from me right now...) I never much cared for the woman, never have seen her show, but when I learned she had enthusiastically endorsed the book "The Secret" I knew with how many grains of salt to take her. Aren't you a teacher, smc?

And I just saw he's New Age, so yeah...

How does that Menken quote go: "For every complex problem there is a simple, easy and wrong solution?"

[randolph]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Thank you for that piece of advice, smc. Ah yes, the dreaded Oprah recommendation. Perhaps the only good thing she has ever done was that William Faulkner box set. (Which oddly enough sits across from me right now...) I never much cared for the woman, never have seen her show, but when I learned she had enthusiastically endorsed the book "The Secret" I knew with how many grains of salt to take her. Aren't you a teacher, smc?

And I just saw he's New Age, so yeah...

How does that Menken quote go: "For every complex problem there is a simple, easy and wrong solution?"

The ego is the source of much human unhappiness.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by smc

Enoch Root, I would advise you to tread very lightly with any "self-help" guru such as Eckhart (the correct spelling) Tolle, especially one endorsed by the Queen of the Facile, Oprah Winfrey. You don't need to enrich Tolle further to figure out what to do.

To assume a book is not worth reading simply because Oprah Winfrey likes it seems rather presumptuous. Would you refuse to buy a car because she owns one?

[smc]

Originally Posted by randolph

To assume a book is not worth reading simply because Oprah Winfrey likes it seems rather presumptuous. Would you refuse to buy a car because she owns one?

Randolph is correct. The problem of the book will be found between its covers, not in the endorsements on the cover.