Are There Transsexuals here who have successfully married?

[Rambam]

Originally Posted by rockabilly

Why should the state or government say who can or cant be married. Dont get me wrong i want to have a Tgirlfriend and spend my life w/ her but i feel like "big brother" should butt out of our life. It should be enough that i want to share a life w/ a Tgirl that a piece of paper shouldn't hold us back. Maybe i'm wrong but Marrige is just a word for the ceremony of joining two people together.

Don't get me wrong, but I didn't know that all countries all over the world do allow a homosexual marriage. Don't know where you live, mate.
And, this question comes from a Filipino tgirl, not from a European or American tgirl. You talk about that topic as would it be an ordinary marriage between a genetic woman and man.

[darkstargemini]

> strange but true there r transgenders who i no that r married have kids ah yes a real job r accepted by sociaty so why would u ask i guess u don,t get out a lot or u need to listen learn understand and that,s all i got to say about that.

[desirouspussy]

I was once actually proposed to by a lesbian lover. Ironically, it was my fast growing fascination for the third gender that made me turn her down.

Same gender marriage has been legal in my country for several years and there's nothing to stop a man or woman from having a transsexual woman as his or her wife. Perhaps it will happen to me one day.:D

[tslust]

Originally Posted by fionahavelock

marriage is a human right, not a heterosexual privilege

That's great, I'm gonna have to remember that one.

Originally Posted by racquel

They shouldn't, but apparently the majority of this country doesn't agree. Old white fundamentalists outnumber the LGBTs by a lot -- and they always vote.

The core people involved with the "Defense of Marriage" probably are driven by their sense of morality. However the majority of its supporters, I believe, are motivated by fear. Fear of changing events, fear of outsiders, and fear of what they do not understand.

Originally Posted by racquel

But if everybody just had their own little ceremony, gave each other rings, and just said they were married without doing a bunch of paperwork things would be a lot simpler in life anyway.

The biggest reason for all that paperwork is, money. You have to pay all those fees, pay to get your marriage license, and pay for the actual ceremony. Even if you are married at th courthouse, you still have to pay the judge and court for their time.

[Rambam]

Originally Posted by darkstargemini

> strange but true there r transgenders who i no that r married have kids ah yes a real job r accepted by sociaty so why would u ask i guess u don,t get out a lot or u need to listen learn understand and that,s all i got to say about that.

If you are talking to me, so show me any Asian TG who can marry a man in her country. Come on man, tell it to me. Where is it possible?
Know you, English isn't my native language but I can read and understand what the question is. The Starter of that topic lives in the Philippines and not in Europe where homosexual marriage isn't a problem.
And, we talk either about a transgendered woman who is marry with a GG.
I hope now you undertstand.

[fionahavelock]

Originally Posted by Rambam

If you are talking to me, so show me any Asian TG who can marry a man in her country. Come on man, tell it to me. Where is it possible?
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i know one couple here, she's well known ts. she was married with local guy. they married in moslem religion. they have some pictured to show us. i'm not really sure that it's legal by government, thats what i mean, they didn't have the same rights and benefit with heterosexual couples. so i guess it could happen by traditional society, but not recognized by government.
that makes me thinking, what the point getting married if it's not recognize then. but they married and live together happily..

[racquel]

Originally Posted by fionahavelock

i don't really agree with that term.. well of course people getting married also for many reason, protections, rights and also benefit. such as divorce protection, medical, social security and so on.
so i believe in legal marriage then just declare it..
it's just my thought...

I totally agree. I'm just saying it's not the end of the world. Gay and TS people have lived together for a long time, and you can get some of the same protections with business partnerships, civil unions and various contracts. Anybody can get a joint checking account.

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

...but the flat out truth is that they ALSO don't want same-sex couples destroying what they feel are their religious beliefs, and they absolutely don't want to see same-sex marriages impeding on their churches or their personal rights.

We all hear the cries of religious folks saying that gay marriage destroys the religious sanctity of marriage. There's one major, major problem with that argument. If you're going to truly follow your religion then for the most part you need to say that everybody who doesn't is going to hell. If you're a fundamentalist Christian you must think that atheists, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists and probably Catholics are all going to hell. They're all heathens, not just the gays and trannys. Therefore all their marriages are an abomination -- an affront to God, Jesus and Scripture. So if you oppose gay marriage you should also oppose all marriage outside your faith because it all destroys the religious sanctity of marriage.

But all these fundamentalists are just hateful. They don't even care about what they're supposed to believe. If you actually read the Bible you will find that gays and transsexuals are not in any way condemned by Jesus. Moses said in Leviticus that you shouldn't have gay sex, but he also said you shouldn't eat pork or do any work on Saturday or you'll burn in hell. Jesus said over and over that people shouldn't try to follow the law of Moses, though. And remember that whole part where Sodom was destroyed because they were gay? Try actually reading it. The entire city wanted to gang rape two angels that God sent, and that is why they were destroyed. Of course, the Bible is all made up, but if you're going to say you follow it you should actually read it.

And the other argument that any marriage infringes on anybody else's rights is absurd.

[fionahavelock]

So if you oppose gay marriage you should also oppose all marriage outside your faith because it all destroys the religious sanctity of marriage.


well said racquel, i agree with it.

[Darha]

people will change and new opportunities exist, all will can live together, I look forward especially to find some tgirl for married with her. Of course I really want a good relationship with someone

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by racquel

We all hear the cries of religious folks saying that gay marriage destroys the religious sanctity of marriage. There's one major, major problem with that argument. If you're going to truly follow your religion then for the most part you need to say that everybody who doesn't is going to hell. If you're a fundamentalist Christian you must think that atheists, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists and probably Catholics are all going to hell. They're all heathens, not just the gays and trannys. Therefore all their marriages are an abomination -- an affront to God, Jesus and Scripture. So if you oppose gay marriage you should also oppose all marriage outside your faith because it all destroys the religious sanctity of marriage.

But all these fundamentalists are just hateful. They don't even care about what they're supposed to believe. If you actually read the Bible you will find that gays and transsexuals are not in any way condemned by Jesus. Moses said in Leviticus that you shouldn't have gay sex, but he also said you shouldn't eat pork or do any work on Saturday or you'll burn in hell. Jesus said over and over that people shouldn't try to follow the law of Moses, though. And remember that whole part where Sodom was destroyed because they were gay? Try actually reading it. The entire city wanted to gang rape two angels that God sent, and that is why they were destroyed. Of course, the Bible is all made up, but if you're going to say you follow it you should actually read it.

And the other argument that any marriage infringes on anybody else's rights is absurd.

One of the most precisely written posts here ever!

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by Rambam

Don't get me wrong, but I didn't know that all countries all over the world do allow a homosexual marriage. Don't know where you live, mate.

Originally Posted by Rambam

If you are talking to me, so show me any Asian TG who can marry a man in her country. Come on man, tell it to me. Where is it possible?

Here is a quick list of countries, where you can find out what their marriage laws are relative to same-sex unions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_...e-sex_marriage