New and Looking

I think that some people are pre-disposed to a certain gender. It's one thing to have a pretty face and look .like your mother, but, for instance, I have a foot fetish, so I have noticed, some, t-girls have very thin, dainty wrists and ankles, and very feminine feet and hands.

Some t-girls' bodies are already very feminine. So, they must be more femlae than male in their genetic make-up.

Hi Biona (and all), I just read through this entire thread, and hope you do not mind me posting here. First, I want to say I hope your friend is recovering okay, Bionca. It's great to hear her b/f was there for her.

Second, I hope you will forgive me for this, Bionca, but the guy you mentioned who "liked you too much" is a FORMER Marine, not an "ex-Marine." As a former Marine myself, I have to alert you to the fact that "once a Marine, always a Marine."

Third, from reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that you are an amazing woman. Highly intelligent, a great sense of humor, incredibly beautiful, warm and kind-hearted. Your bit of self-effacement is attractive as hell because I truly get the sense that it's real and not something you do to to "fish for compliments." Your confession of being a "geeky girl" also gets "points" with me, even though I know you're not trying to "score" any. (And if you'd like to take that as a double entendre then you are most welcome to do so!)

Any guy would be extraordinarily lucky to win your heart. I do hope the best for you in all aspects of your life: especially in love. I am 37 and still looking for my "soulmate" but I know I can't give up because the minute I do the right girl will pass me by.

You seem like one of "the good guys" (and I am employing that phrase as part of the vernacular).

Well, count me as another "fan" here. Sorry I am so long-winded, I have a B.A. in English, and I love to write.

All the best, and thank you for sharing so much of your time and your self here with us. and and
Rob

[The Conquistador]

For me, the attraction to a ts is one of personal courage and independence. Obviously you don't give a damn about what other people think and want to live life as you see fit. It also shows that you have a strong will and determination and there is nothing more attractive than a woman who can fight off the world and still keep her head up high in the face of opposition. That's what I like about ts. They tend to have a stronger character than a gg because they have experienced so much crap and hardship and come out a better person because of it.

[BBboySingle]

Hi Bionica, First i must say it you are truly beautiful no doubt about it, i truly hope that some day you will be able to find the guy who's perfect for you and some that will understand, it is true that we men have the fantasy to be whit a t-gilr but some do understand and wouldn't mind that you weren't born as a girl but no matter the past what matters is the present and the future your beautiful and strong hang in there

[O'Sully TS Hopeful]

Bionca I think that you are GORGEOUS and deserve the man in the world. I know that if was still a hetero man then I would give you all the love and respect that you deserve. Too bad I want to be a tgirl so bad otherwise maybe we could've hooked up.

[Limegirl]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

For me, the attraction to a ts is one of personal courage and independence. Obviously you don't give a damn about what other people think and want to live life as you see fit. It also shows that you have a strong will and determination and there is nothing more attractive than a woman who can fight off the world and still keep her head up high in the face of opposition. That's what I like about ts. They tend to have a stronger character than a gg because they have experienced so much crap and hardship and come out a better person because of it.

Yes, that is very true, we TS-girls have going through many rough experiences to make our bodys fit our inner picture of ourselves as women, we are women born in male bodies and that is an unmiagble tradegy for us.
We had to fight the societys prejudies, live in fear of violence, harazzments, contempt or at least total lack of understanding for our situation.
That fact makes me furius, I dont hurt anyone, leave me alone and let me live my life, why should this be so provocatice to many people? havent they other things to do then putting their noses in things that not are of their concern?
This is not a sexual thing, transexualism, its about life and death.
I want true love and respect and the best thing to achive this is to fit in the mainstream society so much as possible.
I want to have an naturale female approach, not an unaturale approach like many transvestites have with vulgar clothes, make up and offensive manners, looking like ugly hookers on the street.
/Limegirl

[rastarzan]

thats the way it is but in the end it is worth isnt it

[Limegirl]

Originally Posted by rastarzan

thats the way it is but in the end it is worth isnt it

Yes, its worth EVERYTHING.., its a question of life and death for me...

[ila]

Originally Posted by Limegirl

This is not a sexual thing, transexualism, its about life and death.
I want true love and respect and the best thing to achive this is to fit in the mainstream society so much as possible.
I want to have an naturale female approach, not an unaturale approach like many transvestites have with vulgar clothes, make up and offensive manners, looking like ugly hookers on the street.
/Limegirl

You want respect but you aren't willing to give any. You seem to have a vendetta against transvestites. To get respect you must give others respect.

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by ila

You want respect but you aren't willing to give any. You seem to have a vendetta against transvestites. To get respect you must give others respect.

Well, I don't mean to put words into anyone's mouth, but in defense of Limegirl -- and she can correct me if I'm wrong here -- but based on her series of posts, what she seems to be saying is somewhat similar to thoughts that Bionca has long argued in her postings as well.

Namely, there's a big difference between being taken seriously as a transgender and being treated as a real person (with real feelings and being shown real respect) versus acting as a pure sex object or being seen as a pure fantasy object by guys who just want a one-time thrill, after which they will toss you aside. Or as Bionca has often lamented, won't even sit with you for coffee for fear of being seen with you. Which is just the most insane thing, since no matter what people are still people underneath it all, so there should be some accountability for treating a fellow human being with respect.

But again, in her defense, Limegirl usually points out that she's talking about hookers visibly strutting their stuff in the street or those TS who are overtly playing up their sexuality (by working sex sites and such) versus those transgenders who are genuinely trying to find a workable daily life, and who are hoping to find acceptance for who they really are inside as a person.

But hey, that's just the way I've read the posts. Then again, that's what I think makes this site and these message boards worthwhile because rather than everyone just talking about sex, sex, sex, you can find people here who are genuinely trying to express themselves or even find themselves and make new friends. So, if someone says something or phrases something a bit awkward from time to time, I think it's okay to just politely ask "Did you mean this or did you actually mean that" to try and clarify things.

[Limegirl]

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

Well, I don't mean to put words into anyone's mouth, but in defense of Limegirl -- and she can correct me if I'm wrong here -- but based on her series of posts, what she seems to be saying is somewhat similar to thoughts that Bionca has long argued in her postings as well.

Namely, there's a big difference between being taken seriously as a transgender and being treated as a real person (with real feelings and being shown real respect) versus acting as a pure sex object or being seen as a pure fantasy object by guys who just want a one-time thrill, after which they will toss you aside. Or as Bionca has often lamented, won't even sit with you for coffee for fear of being seen with you. Which is just the most insane thing, since no matter what people are still people underneath it all, so there should be some accountability for treating a fellow human being with respect.

But again, in her defense, Limegirl usually points out that she's talking about hookers visibly strutting their stuff in the street or those TS who are overtly playing up their sexuality (by working sex sites and such) versus those transgenders who are genuinely trying to find a workable daily life, and who are hoping to find acceptance for who they really are inside as a person.

Well, thanks CreativeMind for your informative post, you litterary took the words out of my mouth, I couldn´t say it better myself, you put your finger exactly on the spot

[ila]

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

So, if someone says something or phrases something a bit awkward from time to time, I think it's okay to just politely ask "Did you mean this or did you actually mean that" to try and clarify things.

You mean like you always do for my posts. Oh that's right, you don't ask for clarification you just jump right in and make statements and assumptions without asking if that's what I mean or asking for a clarification.

[ila]

Originally Posted by ila

You want respect but you aren't willing to give any. You seem to have a vendetta against transvestites. To get respect you must give others respect.

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

so there should be some accountability for treating a fellow human being with respect.

But again, in her defense, Limegirl usually points out that she's talking about hookers visibly strutting their stuff in the street or those TS who are overtly playing up their sexuality (by working sex sites and such) versus those transgenders who are genuinely trying to find a workable daily life, and who are hoping to find acceptance for who they really are inside as a person.

Originally Posted by Limegirl

Well, thanks CreativeMind for your informative post, you litterary took the words out of my mouth, I couldn´t say it better myself, you put your finger exactly on the spot

You are both missing my point. I have simply said that if one wants respect one must also give respect. Giving respect means that one should respect the way others dress and act even if it is different than what one likes. I respect the fact that Limegirl wants to be treated as a woman. If I ever met her I would treat as her as a woman. It is not fair however, to denigrate other people who want to be crossdressers, or who work in the sex trade, or who apply their makeup in a different manner. I'm sure all these people would also like to be respected for who they are.