Does liking shemales make you gay?

[armed_rober]

wow interesting results. i like to look at mens cocks as well as shemales i like shemales more but some dudes cocks are just so hot. there are very few men that i am attracted too. mostly just their dicks. but i do have fantasys about men having sex with me. i dont think i would ever persue it. but if i was ever persued i would do it for sure.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by armed_rober

wow interesting results. i like to look at mens cocks as well as shemales i like shemales more but some dudes cocks are just so hot. there are very few men that i am attracted too. mostly just their dicks. but i do have fantasys about men having sex with me. i dont think i would ever persue it. but if i was ever persued i would do it for sure.

Give it a try. You'll like it, I guarantee.

[fuckshemaleass]

for me ,l think ,ladyboy is sex monster

i want fuck shemale ,but i think iam not a gay

[seraret]

i definetaly do not like gay porn, even do not like hardcore because it includes men.

i always watch girl only and ladyboy movies.

also, not all shemale material excites me. only ladyboys and T-girl Mandy :D.

[kilgoretrout]

Well I am glad to know it is not just me who is conflicted, though a number of you do not appear conflicted but very firm in your beliefs.

I cannot bear mtm porn, but a dude and a shemale turns me on. Why?

[darkstargemini]

> i get that a lot he likes girls with dicks he must be gay i,m not into men i enjoy the company of women but i like shemales they say thats sick i guess it,s the way u look at it what can u do .

[McLuvinladyboys]

yeah i an gonna go with hank on this one, i am gonna have to say we are all a little on the bisexual side. lets face it what seperates the ladyboys we love from the biological girls we also like. its simple, the cock
so we have a fascination for cock. thats what it is, we all wish that our daintly girls had throbing members.
i wonder how many of you guys would prefer that your shemals had a pussy too, sort of like the japanese futanari girls? that would be ideal for me, the best of everything, a cock to suck on and an ass AND pussy to fuck. sounds great to me.
i think though that many of us either are not ever going to be interested in men, or just wont admit it. thats part of this as well.
i could fuck a femme boy, sure, as long as i dont meet him in mans clothes all unshaven and man like. its just like fucking a small titted ladyboy.
as long as i can pretend there is some feminintiy there i think i am happy.
like i said i wont be going to the local gay bar and picking up a leather man anytime soon

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by McLuvinladyboys

. its simple, the cock
so we have a fascination for cock. thats what it is, we all wish that our daintly girls had throbing members.

I'm not going to explain it to you. Bionca and I have done that before on many a post. But you are so wrong. You like shemales, not for the "male" but for the "she".

[McLuvinladyboys]

Originally Posted by franalexes

I'm not going to explain it to you. Bionca and I have done that before on many a post. But you are so wrong. You like shemales, not for the "male" but for the "she".

dunno bout that. look around and you will usually hear(see) the guys here talking about one certian aspect of the shemale. her cock. there must be a thousand threads on here about it.
if we were interested in the SHE we would be with bio girls. so while we are interested in the she, we are also interested in the male parts as well.
since you dont want to explain it, or shoot me a link to another post where you or bionca do explain it, i cant really give you anymore than this. i dont know what your arguement against cock interest would be(does that make sense)

we like the she shape, but we also like the he organ, like i said its pretty simple, we all want out women with cocks, other wise we would just go get bio girls

[javabox]

Originally Posted by franalexes

I'm not going to explain it to you. Bionca and I have done that before on many a post. But you are so wrong. You like shemales, not for the "male" but for the "she".

Doubt it. If the poster liked shemales not for the male, but for the she (meaning, just for the she), then he could simplify his life immensely by only focusing on cisgirls. There are so many more of them ... at last count, more than half the people on the planet fall into that category. A lot more options. But it doesn't seem to be the case that people who like shemales like them specifically for either the male or the she. They like them for the both-ness.

Of course, I could be wrong. Like the original poster, I'd welcome a link to a thread where your point of view is spelled out in more detail.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by javabox

Doubt it. If the poster liked shemales not for the male, but for the she (meaning, just for the she), then he could simplify his life immensely by only focusing on cisgirls. There are so many more of them ... at last count, more than half the people on the planet fall into that category. A lot more options. But it doesn't seem to be the case that people who like shemales like them specifically for either the male or the she. They like them for the both-ness.

Of course, I could be wrong. Like the original poster, I'd welcome a link to a thread where your point of view is spelled out in more detail.

As males, we know how how well our cock can produce pleasure. We know how much we enjoy females and their beautiful bodies. We know how good it is to have our cock inserted in a female. We put all of these feelings together when we view a beautiful shemale displaying her lovely cock, our mind tells us that this girl has special sexual attributes well beyond a regular female. All of her is female and all of her is desirable, including her female
cock. Biologically the male penis is analogous to the female clitoris.

[randolph]

A further comment.
Suppose a genetic female could get gene therapy on her genitalia that would transform her clitty into a functional penis. I suspect that we (men) would find it equally desirable as a transexual penis. Not only that, if she still had a pussey then she would be a hermaphrodite (futa. girl). How much fun would that be?

[Bionca]

Yes, you all are the faggiest fags who ever fagged a fag... happy?? Oh wait.. you are trying to save some bit of heterosexuality so that when WE get shit on YOU can stay nice and comfortably wrapped in your hetero-ness.

Here is the deal from my perspective - does it matter if you are? If it does, why? You are aware that most people who know will think you are? As someone who grew up assumed to be gay, who was very openly attracted to men in a male context, the very last thing I want is to be some closet for some guy. Maybe that's my lot in life if as a trans*woman, but I hope it isn't.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by javabox

Doubt it. If the poster liked shemales not for the male, but for the she (meaning, just for the she), then he could simplify his life immensely by only focusing on cisgirls. There are so many more of them ... at last count, more than half the people on the planet fall into that category. A lot more options. But it doesn't seem to be the case that people who like shemales like them specifically for either the male or the she. They like them for the both-ness.

Of course, I could be wrong. Like the original poster, I'd welcome a link to a thread where your point of view is spelled out in more detail.

I can relate to this, it seems that is what transsexual is all about. I signed on to this site because I like looking at transsexuals and fantasizing about sex with them. It seems that trying to intellectualize this lust is going to be futile, for me anyway.

Dear Bionca
love yourself
eat lots of blueberries
wear sexy clothes
you will be fine

[Lac79]

I pretty much think of ladyboys, femmeboys, shemales all as women, dudes just dont do anything for me. We are just a rare breed I guess lol. Fuck labels, I am who I am and do what I do.

[GCharles]

The thing about being attracted to ladyboys is that I'm still attracted by the feminine form, there's just something kinky about having a cock i guess. Totally not interested in the male form. Being gay and liking TGirls are 2 different things.

[Alanz]

I read this thread with interest and tried an experiment. I watched my girlfriends gay porn dvd to see if it aroused me. it didn"t, in fact I felt a little embarrassed by it. Then I watched my copy of "spunk" a Ladyboy masturbation dvd, that got me really hot. I think that proves on the whole Ladyboy lovers are not Gay! They just love chicks with dicks!! Go on give it a try, you may just enjoy it! One day it may be too late.


Hey! We wouldn"t be using this forum if we were Gay! Would we?

[Lycanthropunk]

This is a fascinating topic, albeit an age-old one. My perspective seems to be a little different from most on here. I completely agree that we should transcend the confines of fitting into a rigid "label", but we will be labelled by others whether we like it or not. Our complex personalities will be simplified into bitesize chunks for ease of use during other people's perceptions of us.

Where my perspective differs is that I know I would be labelled "bisexual" and I'm happy with it. I like men AND women. With women I love the way they look and dress- generally they are MUCH more attractive than guys. But with men i love their cocks, their hairiness. But it's not always the differences between men and women which satisfy my bisexuality- sometimes it's the similar traits. Whilst I love curvy full figured women I tend to prefer women with flat chests to big breasts. I also love muscular legs and hairiness on girls. And whilst I love hairiness on guys, the muscle I find attractive on a girl I find repulsive on a guy. I think for me I love androgeny- the blurring of the line between genders.

T-girls, for me, are the perfect celebration of bisexuality. They represent the best of both worlds. The beauty of a woman matched with the very best bit of a man. Normally I would have to satisfy my bisexuality separately, either with a man or a woman, but a t-girl is everything I could wish for, all in one amazing package! I agree that t-girl admirers vary with their "straightness", and that can be seen in their preferences. Being happily bi I tend to prefer flatchested donkey-dick'd femboys to their bigger breasted sisters, but that's just me.

Bottom line is that how we are labelled sexually doesn't matter, and if we HAVE to labelled, then "t-girl admirers" should be a label itself!

[GRH]

This topic always makes me laugh my ass off. Never do you see such a bravado attempt by men to try to rationalize why they like cock. They will try to paint it up like...It's only cock on a pretty feminine form that I like. Or...I don't like cock on gay men. But the fact of the matter is...Men like cock. That is as gay as it comes. And if for some reason you think you're exempt from this logic...Please, just TRY liking a girl like me for a little while. I guarantee you WILL BE CALLED GAY. So you might as well get over labels or get used to being considered gay, because all of you "t-girl lovers" are a bit gay in my opinion.

[smc]

It is a remarkable feeling of liberation from the ways in which society seeks to mold us within unreasonable boundaries of so-called "normalcy" to be able to say "I love cock" and not care what anyone else thinks.

I just told someone earlier this week, after knowing him for 30 years! Once I added "not yours," he was fine.

[GRH]

SMC, I think it's GREAT that you can admit that to yourself and to another human being. Especially without the normal disclaimers of "as long as it's attached to feminine form."

Because let's face it, most people are NOT interested in a person's "disclaimers." If you like cock, and you're a male, you're gay. It doesn't matter what it's attached to...At least to most people. And I assume that's what most people are REALLY worried about in this thread...And that is, what do MOST people think. And the fact of the matter is, to MOST people, liking ladyboys/shemales makes a person probably gay. Either get used to the label or get over it, that's my motto.

[jimudon]

Originally Posted by GRH

SMC, I think it's GREAT that you can admit that to yourself and to another human being. Especially without the normal disclaimers of "as long as it's attached to feminine form."

Because let's face it, most people are NOT interested in a person's "disclaimers." If you like cock, and you're a male, you're gay. It doesn't matter what it's attached to...At least to most people. And I assume that's what most people are REALLY worried about in this thread...And that is, what do MOST people think. And the fact of the matter is, to MOST people, liking ladyboys/shemales makes a person probably gay. Either get used to the label or get over it, that's my motto.

I agree, it took a while but I agree. I only want to be with lady-cock, or fem-boys. Just finally said, I don't have any desire for ggs. I want be on the other team. Granted I prefer fem-boy, cross-dressing side. But I am in it for the cock. I

If anyone cares to they can read my other posts on this topic. There seems to be a very diverse range of responses and yes, it does seem like at times, some here are seeking to “rationalize” their desires. I can only speak for myself on this issue but I have never been attracted to men and have only had sex with cis women. I find many transsexual models very attractive and have no problem imagining myself in a relationship with a transwomen someday. I don’t want to disappoint some of you but I really am attracted to the “whole person” and not simply “the cock.” That said, I also find nothing wrong with “being gay” and if that is what it makes me--so be it. Although I don’t believe most gay men would be attracted to someone like Kelly Shore or Camilla Saenz or Victoria Holyns for example. As for the external sex organs involved… I do believe that it is all (for me at least) “in context.” When I see gay porn, I can’t imagine myself fucking or sucking any of the guys in the scene. I can appreciate a handsome or well built man but they just don’t “do it” for me. Sorry! I have seen pictures of Camilla “post op” and she is equally beautiful and sexy with a penis or vagina. It is the “absolutely totally drop-dead gorgeous tall long legged blonde goddess” that I am attracted to. And don’t even get me started on Kelly!

Anyway, this topic is obviously important for many and I myself have wondered the same thing as many of you. Personally, you shouldn’t worry if you are “gay” or “straight” or “bi” or whatever. Someone else here said that by society’s logic we would all be considered “gay.” Well I believe that that “logic” to be faulty--the issues involved are way too complex. But I understand it. I have developed my own plan for “coming out” if you will and have gradually begun to make progress. Since attending our local “Day of Remembrance” last November, I have made friends with several transwomen (and transmen) in our community. I shared my interest with two very good friends over the holidays and my colleagues (I’m a university professor) know I have supported gay rights for many years.

That’s my story. Again. To sum it up, I believe each one of us is unique and that’s why labeling is silly.

Dr. A

[cyba]

all of you "t-girl lovers" are a bit gay in my opinion.

And how about you. GRH. I see you're a 'senior LB lover.'
There's still the distinction, at least for me, between those
males who genuinely would never have a sexual relationship
with a male and, especially, have no preference for that..
and are not inclined to touch guy's cocks, and who generally
prefer females, but, would play with an LB.
Me.
That 'little bit of dick' is a puzzle.
I take it, for you, the gold standard is guys, perhaps the vast
majority, who'd never touch a cock, period.
We can say they're 'straight'/hetero.
Everything else (all other situations involving cock) is/are 'gay'?

[DEFENDER]

Whats in a name?.......and does it really matter? If some law was passed that decreed that all "shemale lovers/admirers etc" are now to be classed as being "gay" would you suddenly change? Life's too short to worry about titles and being placed in catagories. Accept who you are and if others can't deal with that, just move on,....and most of all,...enjoy living life to the last second. I have the loveliest TS girlfriend and I bless that day that we met and if that makes me gay, I honestly could'nt give a damn!

[beginner]

I agree with You. I also have a lovely TS girlfriend and I don't mind what others think. But I somewhat also agree with Franalexes; only that what attracts me in she-males is the SHE with the COCK. And that's the mixture of both that I like. I don't think I'm gay, but if anybody thinks so it just does'nt matter.
Beginner

Originally Posted by DEFENDER

Whats in a name?.......and does it really matter? If some law was passed that decreed that all "shemale lovers/admirers etc" are now to be classed as being "gay" would you suddenly change? Life's too short to worry about titles and being placed in catagories. Accept who you are and if others can't deal with that, just move on,....and most of all,...enjoy living life to the last second. I have the loveliest TS girlfriend and I bless that day that we met and if that makes me gay, I honestly could'nt give a damn!

[connie]

I agree with an earlier statement, most gay men I know are not attracted to anything female, there attraction lies in the male image. I love females, the female form, and I have to be honest, I love cock. I love sucking it, I love have it in me, but I am not really attracted to the stereotypical male image. It is the female form that really turns me on, males that look feminine, are always more attractive to me, then manly men. I have had sex with men, because they have cocks, but it is always the lure of the penis that pulls me in, not the men themselves. So am I a gay? Perhaps but only in a lesbian way, I would think. Who knows.

[ImAlittleCurious]

I don't consider myself gay at all. I can't stand the thought of seeing a male naked. Though, seeing the most "regular" woman with a penis. (Sorry, if I made anyone upset with that statement). But, I hope you get me?

It's a big turn on. Is it because I am attracted to both sexes? Or is it the thought of having both organs on a person? Anyway. It's a turn on!

I mean. At times seeing my girlfriend with the strap on. It's the hottest thing ever! I sometimes even get hard without her touching me. It's cute to see her not know what to do at times... "Tell me how do I put this penis in you.." Or she gets tired so quickly..! ha ha


I feel weird at times. Guilty for that matter. The only one who kinda knows I'm into T-Girls is the current lady.

[crsd1970]

First of all, I think that whether 'it makes you gay' or not is not important. Having said that, IMO a guy and a TS are a man and a woman, simple as that. So I don't see how that would be a gay relationship. Look at the pictures below of girls and their men making love: does that look like gay sex to you?

[smc]

Originally Posted by crsd1970

First of all, I think that whether 'it makes you gay' or not is not important. Having said that, IMO a guy and a TS are a man and a woman, simple as that. So I don't see how that would be a gay relationship. Look at the pictures below of girls and their men making love: does that look like gay sex to you?

I have weighed in on this question from time to time, mostly to express my wish that the posts about it would all go away. But this time, I just want to thank crsd1970 for such an eloquent statement.

[IronCity]

How can you be gay if you dont like men??