Da na na na na na na na na na naa BATMAN!

[sesame]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

But it's still going. Why? cos they keep bringing back their best villain. Look at star wars, they could easily have killed darth vader at the end of star wars, but they had him escape in his tie fighter, thus allowing him to return in empire strikes back. Closure is bad if you want to make a series. And an ambiguos ending is just as good, like with 2 face, no one checked his pulse, or the best comeback ever, Sherlock Homes. Presumed dead, but they never found his body, so he could come back later.

Closure sucks.

1. Starwars (IV) 1977
2. Empire Strikes Back (starwars-V) 1980
3. Return of the Jedi (starwars-VI) 1983
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
5. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
6. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

Anna, the first Starwar film ever, had Darth Vader in it. And Most importantly, Vader was in the End of the Starwar story, "The Return of the Jedi" back in 1983; actually it should be Starwars VI, 6th part if you follow George Lucas, the author! They filmed the first chapters of Starwars much later. So, killing Vader in the first parts is out of the question.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by sesame

1. Starwars (IV) 1977
2. Empire Strikes Back (starwars-V) 1980
3. Return of the Jedi (starwars-VI) 1983
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
5. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
6. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

Anna, the first Starwar film ever, had Darth Vader in it. And Most importantly, Vader was in the End of the Starwar story, "The Return of the Jedi" back in 1983; actually it should be Starwars VI, 6th part if you follow George Lucas, the author! They filmed the first chapters of Starwars much later. So, killing Vader in the first parts is out of the question.

WTF are you blabbering about?

Fuck episode one fuck Attack of the Clones, fuck the Sith, fuck midichlorians, and fuck computer animated aliens, George Lucas is dead to me since 1989, I would have said 1984, but he does 1 good thing since then, which is Last Crusade, but other than that, he has done solid shit since 1984, I have just 6 words: Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure.

George lucas, you should have died a great men in 1984, when your soul did.

As far as I'm concerned, there are 3 Star Wars movies: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. anything else is just an abomination created by the soulless zombie that was once George Lucas, stumbling about moaning caaaaash caaaaaasshh.



The moment I'm talking about is the destruction of hte first death star, when Darth Escapes. Lucas could have killed Darth, and had closure for the only film they thought they would get to make of Lucas' starwars idea, but he chose to let him escape to fight another highly entertaining day in Empire Strike Back.



Of course the best example of not giving closure is James Bond. It went on for years with Blofeld escaping, no closure allowed, blofeld always escapes, it took several decades before Blofeld was finaly put down hte chimney. Imagine how shit it would have been if he had whacked Blofeld in From Russia with Love.


the Joker is pretty much Batmans nemesis, he can't die, imagine if Sherlock homes had killed Moriarty straight away, that would totaly have sucked.

[FoxySarah]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Star Wars Rant

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Han shot first.

[sesame]

Originally Posted by SS-Anna

imagine if Sherlock homes had killed Moriarty straight away, that would totaly have sucked.

Yeah, that would be the end of all fun. Also consider how sad it would be to kill Holmes himself! Back in my childhood days, I was very sad to learn that Holmes was dead in The Final Problem (in The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes). Phew! Tada! He makes a brilliant comeback in The Empty House(the name of the story was something like that, I'm not so sure). This return story starred a villain who shot revolver bullets with a huge airgun!

Anyway, I dont consider the last 3 Starwar films as bad as you think. In their making Lucas had to think up the childhood and youth of Anakin Skywalker! Thats a really amazing feat. But I must admit that the movies portrayed the emotions poorly. The compiled stories I read from starwars-wiki are much better written. The Darth Side: Memoirs of a Monster is also superb. George Lucas wrote something. Then the Fanbase wrote back. And in the process something fantastic was created. The present starwars volume is written not by Lucas but numerous authors. It rather looks like an epic! And I love the complexity. My most favs are Mace Windu, Yoda and Obi Wan Kenobi (in his youth) and Darth Maul (he is blistering!).

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

WTF are you blabbering about?

Fuck episode one fuck Attack of the Clones, fuck the Sith, fuck midichlorians, and fuck computer animated aliens, George Lucas is dead to me since 1989, I would have said 1984, but he does 1 good thing since then, which is Last Crusade, but other than that, he has done solid shit since 1984, I have just 6 words: Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure.

George lucas, you should have died a great men in 1984, when your soul did.

As far as I'm concerned, there are 3 Star Wars movies: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. anything else is just an abomination created by the soulless zombie that was once George Lucas, stumbling about moaning caaaaash caaaaaasshh.

The moment I'm talking about is the destruction of hte first death star, when Darth Escapes. Lucas could have killed Darth, and had closure for the only film they thought they would get to make of Lucas' starwars idea, but he chose to let him escape to fight another highly entertaining day in Empire Strike Back.



Of course the best example of not giving closure is James Bond. It went on for years with Blofeld escaping, no closure allowed, blofeld always escapes, it took several decades before Blofeld was finaly put down hte chimney. Imagine how shit it would have been if he had whacked Blofeld in From Russia with Love.


the Joker is pretty much Batmans nemesis, he can't die, imagine if Sherlock homes had killed Moriarty straight away, that would totaly have sucked.

i wasn't saying they should have killed the joker i wouldn't have, they didn't know heath ledger would die before sequels could be made. my point is that they can't have another actor playng him in the next film, and the way they deal with the jokers abcence will be cheasy.
here here on the starwars rant though i totaly agree. but i have to say i wish james bond had been killed in the first james bond (most overrated crap ever), like in the scorpio episode of the simpsons. james bond is shit particularly daneil craig, sean connery was ok but all the rest where complete muck

[Excaliborg]

Originally Posted by rhythmic delivery

i wasn't saying they should have killed the joker i wouldn't have, they didn't know heath ledger would die before sequels could be made. my point is that they can't have another actor playng him in the next film, and the way they deal with the jokers abcence will be cheasy.
here here on the starwars rant though i totaly agree. but i have to say i wish james bond had been killed in the first james bond (most overrated crap ever), like in the scorpio episode of the simpsons. james bond is shit particularly daneil craig, sean connery was ok but all the rest where complete muck

hoy hoy hoy bond is the epitome of cool amd all things suave.

and dr who is cheesy yeah but its still awesome. gotta love the theme tune.

bond is a pretenteous knob, i wish i was a vilain in one of the films, when he was captured. no lazer beams explosives or slow deaths i'd keep it old school i'd just shoot the posh cunt in the face. try escaping from this or making a cheasy quip after a .45 to the skull.
as for dr who i can't believe anyone over the age of five watchs it, it is complete garbage. i actualy tried to watch it when it came back on cuz i liked the guy who played him the one befre david tenant although like him to, but i turned it iff after two minutes as it was such incomprehensibe drivel. and as for the daleks being the best vilains, they are about as threatening as pee wee herman.

[sesame]

On Her Majesty's Secret Service Cool! Great film.
Robert Carlyle was damn good as a fanatic villain in the film.
Also Sophie Marceau as Elektra King... top notch. I loved her character and deception. It was superb. I found the last interaction of Robbie Coltrane with James Bond very interesting too. The way Sophie shot him and tortured Bond... and Robbie shot his last bullet at Bond's Torture gadget as a parting gesture!

The emotions displayed in the scene where Pierce Brosnan (James Bond) kills Sophie (Elektra) are also touching. Oh, and dont you dare forget Denise Richards.

[Big_Willie]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

As far as I'm concerned, there are 3 Star Wars movies: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi.

I don't like those a lot either. I mean they are good films, like the new ones (though the actor who played the grown up Anakin was so bad, it hurt) but I just never really got into them... I guess the sometimes dumb story and the mediocre acting didn't help.

About closure, I think it can be good. I don't think that Joker is THE best opponent Batman could ever have, the writers can come up with better stuff, I'm sure. I'd love to see Joker again too a bit later but if they decide to stop using him, that's fine too, there are a lot of things they can do.
And I just hate it when writers don't finish a series or a movie properly when they know that will be the last one. I hate it even more when they can't do it because of the studio. I want to know what happens to everyone and want to see every story angle closed, don't leave me guessing.

[sesame]

I love every bit of idea incorporated into the StarWars. The whole Jedi and Sith concept is fascinating. Spiritually powerful martial monks! Brilliant! But as with the filming of all great themes, there are limiting factors. It becomes very difficult to translate the scifi imagery into reality. The short duration of a movie also forces the director to omit various details. So the final outcome of a great story often cannot match up with the novel.

Take for example the Harry Potter films. The first two were great... they were thin books. But from the third book, the volume of the novel began to grow and the subsequent movies bagan to suck. I think the last three books should each be divided into two movies. Also the Dumbledore in the first movie had Charisma, they made a fatal mistake in changing him in the later films. The new Dumbledore is a stupid, rickety, bearded hag!

In Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
Richard Harris successfully played the role of Albus Dumbledore. In my opinion, he is the perfect man for the job.
But in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
This most important character (Dumbledore) was given to Michael Gambon. Just look at the dumb cartoony figure! I dont hate Gambon, but he is not the right actor for this role.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

The way they will deal with the Joker's absence, is they won't mention it. The cops caught him at the end of the last film, it's quite clear he's in Arkham Asylum. Everyone know's that's where the Joker goes. If they have him come back, they can have Harley Quinn bust him out, or he can escape in whatever manner amuses him the most. As always.


The Sith are just stupid. In Starwars Vader wasn't a Sith, he was a Jedi, just a bad Jedi, when he's in hte death star control room, they say he's hte last Jedi, and take the piss out of his religion, before he chokes that other guy. This whole Sith bullshit was just dumb, 'Oh I thought hte Sith were extinct' WTF? you dumb bastard, any Jedi can go to hte dark side, that's the whole point right? Silly sausage.

As for the fucking midichlorians, what's wrong with "I feel the force is strong with this one"?


Oh and Big Willie, it has been proven beyond doubt, that the Joker is the best Villian batman has ever had, time and again, in every format. Comics, cartoons, cheesy TV series, more comics, more cartoon, films, there have been hundreds of villians, and no one has come up with a better one than the Joker. He's just so fucked up. There's nothing worse than a man who has no motive at all. He doesn't want money or power or revenge on anyone, the Joker just wants to have a laugh, he only kills people to entertain himself, he thinks its funny and that's the only reason he needs, can you get a more fucked up and dangerous man than that?



And oh yes, Han shot first, he blasted that green twat's nuts clean off before he knew what has hit him! What a rotten bastard eh?

There's nothing worse than a man who has no motive at all. He doesn't want money or power or revenge on anyone, the Joker just wants to have a laugh, he only kills people to entertain himself, he thinks its funny and that's the only reason he needs, can you get a more fucked up and dangerous man than that?

yeah that reminds me of a great line from the big lebowski

the dude- "they aren't nazzi's, they are nihilists. they don't believe in anything"

john goodman charechter- "fuck man. thats worse, say what you will about the tenats of national socialism, but at least its an ethos"

[sesame]

Originally Posted by =SS-Anna

The Sith are just stupid. In Starwars Vader wasn't a Sith, he was a Jedi, just a bad Jedi, when he's in hte death star control room, they say he's hte last Jedi, and take the piss out of his religion, before he chokes that other guy. This whole Sith bullshit was just dumb, 'Oh I thought hte Sith were extinct' WTF? you dumb bastard, any Jedi can go to hte dark side, that's the whole point right? Silly sausage.
As for the fucking midichlorians, what's wrong with "I feel the force is strong with this one"?

I dont know why you hate all things that are good and popular, Anna, perhaps you like to take the opposition "stance"! Anyway, if you cared to read about Starwars in greater detail, you would have known that Anakin Skywalker became apprentice to Sith Lord Darth Sidious (Palpatine). The Sith Lord named him Darth Vader. Any Jedi can turn to the dark side, yes, there is a chance; but any Jedi cannot become a Sith apprentice. According to the Rule of Two started by Darth Bane, at any single moment, there can be only One Sith Master and One Sith Apprentice in the universe. Interesting Sith Philosophy.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by sesame

Also the Dumbledore in the first movie had Charisma, they made a fatal mistake in changing him

Fatal may just be the right word. Richard Harris died.