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Sanskrit, as we know it, is not the original Vedic language.
SansKrit as the name signifies is a reformed language.
Samskara=to reform or clean up.
The Old Vedic language is Deva-Bhasha the language of the Gods (Deva).
Panini, a scholar cleaned up the very complex grammer and simplified it into Sanskrit. SansKrit as a language is very scientific, its almost mathematical! If you mixup randomly all the words in a Sanskrit sentence, it will still mean the same! The phonetic speech sounds in Sanskrit also rise and fall in perfect musical rhythm, accurate to the minutest degree. All verses constructed in Sanskrit are bound in a particular metre and a rhythm by the author. This is called Chhanda.

So, Veda was not spoken like random speech.
Rather, it was sung! People communicated in songs, with melody!
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Sanskrit, as we know it, is not the original Vedic language.
SansKrit as the name signifies is a reformed language.
Samskara=to reform or clean up.
The Old Vedic language is Deva-Bhasha the language of the Gods (Deva).
Panini, a scholar cleaned up the very complex grammer and simplified it into Sanskrit. SansKrit as a language is very scientific, its almost mathematical! If you mixup randomly all the words in a Sanskrit sentence, it will still mean the same! The phonetic speech sounds in Sanskrit also rise and fall in perfect musical rhythm, accurate to the minutest degree. All verses constructed in Sanskrit are bound in a particular metre and a rhythm by the author. This is called Chhanda.

So, Veda was not spoken like random speech.
Rather, it was sung! People communicated in songs, with melody!
Thankyou Sesame. Although I have heard of Sanskrit and its relationship to the Indo-European languages I have never done any real research on it. Your post has been very informative and enlightening.
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My mother language is Turkish ...
I can speak English but not very good when i speak, i write it better.

Türkiye den selamlar herkese !!!
Hepinize saygılar, sevgiler ...

Ila, nasılsın ? Türkçe konuşmak istermisin ?
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My mother language is Turkish ...
I can speak English but not very good when i speak, i write it better.

Türkiye den selamlar herkese !!!
Hepinize saygılar, sevgiler ...

Ila, nasılsın ? Türkçe konuşmak istermisin ?
Hi translover. I've been waiting for your comments on this topic since I admire your ability to speak, read, and write in more than one language.

I'm afraid I don't speak any Turkish at all. I did visit your wonderful country many years ago, but I don't remember any of the words and phrases that I picked up. One of the things I do remember is all the people being so friendly towards visitors (whether in the big cities or the small towns that I was in). Everyone that I met there wanted to speak English though, which made it harder to pick up any of the language. Unfortunately my stay wasn't long enough, in any one place, to have time to make friends and really learn the language.
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Hi translover. I've been waiting for your comments on this topic since I admire your ability to speak, read, and write in more than one language.

I'm afraid I don't speak any Turkish at all. I did visit your wonderful country many years ago, but I don't remember any of the words and phrases that I picked up. One of the things I do remember is all the people being so friendly towards visitors (whether in the big cities or the small towns that I was in). Everyone that I met there wanted to speak English though, which made it harder to pick up any of the language. Unfortunately my stay wasn't long enough, in any one place, to have time to make friends and really learn the language.
Türkiye den selamlar herkese !!! Hi from Turkiye to all people !!!
Hepinize saygılar, sevgiler ... With my respects and loves

Ila, nasılsın ? Türkçe konuşmak istermisin ? Ila, How are you? Would u like to talk Turkish language ?

Merhaba Ila, Hangi şehir/şehirleri ziyaret ettin Türkiyede ? Sana Antalya yı (Türkiyenin güneyi) öneririm bu aylarda tatil için. Çok güzel deniz, kumsal,güneş,sağlam gece hayatı,çok iyi ve lüks oteller ve tatil köyleri (iyi fiyata) ve etrafta birçok travestilerle . Rehberin olabilirim eğer istersen. Şimdi yurt dışındayım ama ağustos ayında ülkeme gidicem ve ilk olarak Ankara sonra İstanbul ve tatil için Antalya/Kemer veya Antalya/Alanya.

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Hi Ila, Which city/cities you have visited in Turkiye ? And i suggest u, Antalya (south of Turkiye) in these months for holiday. Wonderful sea, beaches, sun,great nightlife, very nice and luxury hotels and resorts (with good prices) and many ladyboys around there . i can be your guide if u want. I am in abroad now but i will go to my country in August and i will go to Ankara first and then Istanbul and go to holiday in Antalya/Kemer or Antalya/Alanya.
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Mel Asher, please dont apologise like that. We are all friends here. Also, technically speaking, Binomial Nomenclature is a Language of Science!
Relax, mano!

Ila, welcome back from your Piranha hunting trip. Damn! You ate all of them? Alone? Dont forget, you promised me a good story, on your return!

I am very interested in Old Saxon Roots from which many modern English words have been born. I was wondering if you could provide me with some insight. And perhaps a line or two about their culture?

I recently found out that many of the 26 English alphabets didnt exist in the middle ages. They have been fashioned much later.
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It is well documented that invaders eventually incorporate the language of those that they invade, that is, if they settle the land. This was most certainly the case of the Romans who adopted much of the language of the Latins whom they subsumed. To a lesser degree, Latin is littered with Etruscan words incorporated into the language of Rome, although the Etruscans as a people survived much much longer than the Latins. In the case of English, it is true that the ' Low German ' variant of the German Tribes used widely by the Angles, and then later that of the Saxons were combined in the development of AngloSaxon, but the language structure that developed was not Germanic. Instead it was Celtic, taken from the peoples that the Angles and Saxons displaced. Cornish is a somewhat shaky survivor from this. And then ? Norman French. Viking settlers in Brittany with their Scandinavian language. They enriched the emerging English Language as conquerors of an already polyglottal people. And what a debt the English Language owes to the Christial Church and its scholarship. Latin and Greek Classics as standard education for the nobility, and later Scientific Nomenclature - a positive harvest of Greek and Latin, and a linguist's delight.
And so the process goes on with Punjabi, Hindi and French words ( not to mention Dutch and German ) being added to the list all the time.

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Türkiye den selamlar herkese !!! Hi from Turkiye to all people !!!
Hepinize saygılar, sevgiler ... With my respects and loves

Ila, nasılsın ? Türkçe konuşmak istermisin ? Ila, How are you? Would u like to talk Turkish language ?

Merhaba Ila, Hangi şehir/şehirleri ziyaret ettin Türkiyede ? Sana Antalya yı (Türkiyenin güneyi) öneririm bu aylarda tatil için. Çok güzel deniz, kumsal,güneş,sağlam gece hayatı,çok iyi ve lüks oteller ve tatil köyleri (iyi fiyata) ve etrafta birçok travestilerle . Rehberin olabilirim eğer istersen. Şimdi yurt dışındayım ama ağustos ayında ülkeme gidicem ve ilk olarak Ankara sonra İstanbul ve tatil için Antalya/Kemer veya Antalya/Alanya.

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Hi Ila, Which city/cities you have visited in Turkiye ? And i suggest u, Antalya (south of Turkiye) in these months for holiday. Wonderful sea, beaches, sun,great nightlife, very nice and luxury hotels and resorts (with good prices) and many ladyboys around there . i can be your guide if u want. I am in abroad now but i will go to my country in August and i will go to Ankara first and then Istanbul and go to holiday in Antalya/Kemer or Antalya/Alanya.
Hi translover. Yes I would like to learn Turkish or at the very least some useful words and phrases. I like your idea of writing a post in Turkish and then providing the English translation.

When I went to Turkey it was as part of a tour, which was the easiest way at the time to visit. I was in Instanbul, Ankara, and Bursa with a few stops at small towns in between. I had one memorable trip on a ferry from the Black Sea back to Instanbul in which I had an opportunity to talk to some of the people. Unfortunately I was quite drunk from drinking vodka, on the ferry, and so although I was relaxed and had a great time I wasn't able to retain too much Turkish.

I'm afraid I won't be able to make it to Turkey this year. My holidays are over soon and then it's back to work for me.
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Meantime I am a little unhappy with the syntax you use for " Libero vestri animus " The Latin does not translate for me. Maybe a little more apt would be
" Expedite animum vestrum " or " Liberate animum vestrum ".
Thank you Mel. I will change my signature right away.
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