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there is no "cutting off" or removing, the penis is literally used to form the vagina
You mean, using the Glans of the penis to create the Clitoris? ...Because, thats where the sex nerves are most thoroughly distributed. Otherwise, there would be no "Real" feeling left in the genital organ.
I dont know where the skin will go in a vagina ( probably external labia), or where does the shaft fit in. May be the urinal tract will perform the same function in the new vagina?
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A fermion: a particle with half-integer spin
Right, Belfagar?
On 2nd thoughts, I should add Baryons.

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I feel like Harry Potter in Horace Slughorn's class!
Answering to spin of sub-atomic-particles, in here?
Well "Blame it on Rio", I mean belfagar.
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Hmm, a discussion of particle physics, psychology, physiology, biology and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Has someone engaged the improbobility drive?


Seriously though Bionca,
It's hard to find a soul mate. I'm 50 and I still haven't. Don't let a few jerks discourage you. There are a great number of jerks out there so odds are that you are going to meet quite a few.
Adding your uniqeness to the equation makes finding the right one even harder.
You should know that some guys will do things when they are horny that they might regret having done after they've climaxed. That's why they can act so strange. It's much like a drug addiction.
A guy might believe in his heart that it's wrong to have sex with you, yet he is still very sexually attracted to you. He forgets his heartfelt beliefs and follows his penis. Afterwards he feels guilty.
He may blame you for turning him into a fag, a queer, gay, etc. He also may lash out at you verbally or even physically, so be very careful even though you've been upfront about who you are from the start.
When you are going out with a new guy find out all that you can about him and let someone else (a friend or a relative) know. Also, it's a good idea to non-chalantly let him know that someone knows that you are with him.
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Thanks Joebad, I guess I understand why guys react the way they do... but I'm surprised at how common the reaction is. For example, the guy who I went out with twice - he was so keen to get things started, to the point I almost didn't put out because I was feeling a little pressure from him to do so, but after the first non-sex date I figured he was cool. I just don't know. Every T-girl I know is single, all of them who are actively seeking a relationship get offers for dates promising that the guy is "relationship minded" and all of them end up feeling like they were just used for sex.

It's hardly unique to T-gals, genetic girls get the same treatment. But the number of GG's in a relationship is much higher than TGs. It's a bit baffling to me.

You are 100% correct about safety. Women get beat and raped on dates, gay guys get beat and raped on dates, and TGs get a to deal with both sides. I have a friend who will call my cell phone while I'm on a date, just to let my date know that I have friends watching out for me. I also would never ever meet someone for the first time in private. Always meet for coffee, if things seem cool and safe.. then maybe we can go someplace more quiet. The meet me for coffee bit also weeds out the guys who are expecting an escort or who would be afraid to be seen with a girl like me in public.
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We could discuss physics - I'll show you that I can be a pretty big bubble-head then
Physics? Now that's my kind of girl.
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You mean, using the Glans of the penis to create the Clitoris? ...Because, thats where the sex nerves are most thoroughly distributed. Otherwise, there would be no "Real" feeling left in the genital organ.
I dont know where the skin will go in a vagina ( probably external labia), or where does the shaft fit in. May be the urinal tract will perform the same function in the new vagina?
They use as much of the penis as they can. I don't know a ton about the actual procedeure, I figure I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it. I do know that the procedeure of removing the testicles and sack (to reduce prodution of testosterone) is no longer performed by most doctors because it limits what they have to work with when creating the vagina.
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They use as much of the penis as they can. I don't know a ton about the actual procedeure, I figure I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it.
That is another thing that complicates your situation. If you meet someone who desires you as you are now, will he still desire you if you cross that bridge?

If he really loves you, I guess he will, but that would be a bad time to find out that he is too shallow. Just when you would need love and support the most.

I think that could be a good question to poll the group about. I'm not quite sure how to word it, but the gist would be: If you were find the perfect pre-op transgender woman in real life, would you still desire her post-op?
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Every T-girl I know is single
Now that equation looks really sad from here.
May be demography doesnt apply to witty A-graders like Bionca here.
C'mon ladies, cheer up a bit, were not lost in Sahara desert for heaven's sake! We live in a randomly mixed up society with a miscellany of tastes for partners. Random like psychedelic bubbles! So everyone gets their cozy partner sooner or later.
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I must say the Internet has helped form a community where trans-folks and their admirers can meet up. The downside is we are a pretty small and widely spread group of people. I have mede a number of really good friends that I will probably never meet face to face. It's good to know that I'm not alone, but doesn't help the lack of quality dates.

One thing I have noticed, and this could just be my own observation and not anything more....

Guys who seem like they have a good heart and are honest and sincere seem to be located in really rural places. The chances of a cute TG living in Corn City Iowa is pretty pathetically low. Or they have a desire to meet a nice, smart, sweet TG to see where things lead; but find vapid, silly, selfish gals. While the gals who want quality and substance, not a sugar-daddy or one-off experimentation can't seem to find them. I suppose the advice to keep looking is the best.
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Yeahhhh,
Far far away...
People with similar interests are often separated by the width of the globe.
But dont let the sadness spread. Just capture it in your heart and linger on.
Life is not about what you dont have, but about what you have achieved.
Rest assured, you have already achieved something.

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Hmmm,
A lot of people are eagerly noting down that address right now!
Expect a knock on your door soon, girl!:D
May be expect thumps on that heavy door from a dozen suitors.
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I think that could be a good question to poll the group about. I'm not quite sure how to word it, but the gist would be: If you were find the perfect pre-op transgender woman in real life, would you still desire her post-op?
I think that's a great question, but I wouldn't ask it. I don't think guys would feel comfortable saying "no" if asked by a TG. I'd like to think that we fall in love with people, and we love our partners nomatter how their bodies change.

Realistically, though, sexual attraction is important in a relationship and part of that is desire for your partner's body. I know lots of people who love their partners, but lose sexual interest after they gain weight, get in an accident that scars their face, things like that. They love their partners, and wouldn't leave them, but the desire isn't there. I'd imagine the same would be true for someone who was attracted to pre-op TGs. They may stay in the relationship out of love or loyalty, but maybe the attraction would lessen...
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Bionca- You really apear to be a sweet, intelligent & attrative girl. With your outgoing personality, your bound to find the right one. But, as with all of us, we can't know when the right one will cross our path, so in the meantime, be the best person you can be, and be happy and satisfied as a single person until the time comes. So many others have jumped into relationships with the wrong people, and have regretted it.

It may take some time before the transgendered are accepted among the majority of Americans, but it has to get better. Be who you are!

If you're ever in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area, let me know. Lots of love....
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Miami huh???

Well I do have two options for a job assignment doing outreach and mentoring for runaway GLBT youth in either Miami or L.A. It seems like a good project trying to get the kids off the street and provide them with some living skills - like getting a job, paying bills, balancing a checkbook, as well as showing productive adult role models that they can relate to.

So... I may be in Miami in a couple months (or L.A.)

Also, thanks - I'm actually enjoying being single. I haven't been single since I was 20, so it's just taking some adjustment.
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Sounds like very worthwhile work. A chance to have a positive effect on many young people. ... Although I'm turning in now, I'll be keeping an eye on your posts to see what's up. I just joined yesterday, and it seems like an interesting forum. Plenty of guys, but with that comes a lot of guys' thoughts/opinions. 'night...
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