You didn't build that

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Now that rhetorical bs of the conventions is over we can settle down and put up with endless political bs commercials. Fundamental changes are needed in our electoral system to save us from all of this. Where is the ethics, where is the honesty?

I propose that we have these people who's job it is to ask hard questions of the candidates and investigate whether the candidates and their ads are telling the truth. They would be unbiased and investigate all sides equally without playing favorites. We could call these people reporters or journalists. I have heard these people existed once. It may be archaic, but I really think it would help. Maybe people like this could rise up again...

Oh man... could you see the look on Obama's face if he came face to face with someone like that? OMG LOL

[TracyCoxx]

This was a tweet from Jon Lovitz... hilarious, and so true.

That's quite a government you supported there in Egypt & Libya Obama. They really raised the bar on what a country can be.

beheading people... dragging our ambassadors dead body through the streets...
It's certainly not politically correct to say this, but I think the muslim extremists have worn out their welcome. They do not deserve a place alongside civilized people and should be exterminated.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I propose that we have these people who's job it is to ask hard questions of the candidates and investigate whether the candidates and their ads are telling the truth. They would be unbiased and investigate all sides equally without playing favorites. We could call these people reporters or journalists. I have heard these people existed once. It may be archaic, but I really think it would help. Maybe people like this could rise up again...

Oh man... could you see the look on Obama's face if he came face to face with someone like that? OMG LOL

Well, it's not just Obama that would look shocked. When is Romney going to come clean on his taxes? All of them are liars. One term elections would eliminate a lot of this crap, just six years and that's it, no retirement no other cushy benefits. Candidates would be expected to serve their country for six years and then go home.

[tonywaits]

Originally Posted by randolph

Well, it's not just Obama that would look shocked. When is Romney going to come clean on his taxes? All of them are liars. One term elections would eliminate a lot of this crap, just six years and that's it, no retirement no other cushy benefits. Candidates would be expected to serve their country for six years and then go home.

Romney came clean today, he paid almost 2 million in taxes for 2011 and donated 4 million to charitable organizations, which is 30% of his income. When will Biden and Obama donate those percentages?

[ila]

Originally Posted by randolph

Well, it's not just Obama that would look shocked. When is Romney going to come clean on his taxes? All of them are liars. One term elections would eliminate a lot of this crap, just six years and that's it, no retirement no other cushy benefits. Candidates would be expected to serve their country for six years and then go home.

Originally Posted by tonywaits

Romney came clean today, he paid almost 2 million in taxes for 2011 and donated 4 million to charitable organizations, which is 30% of his income. When will Biden and Obama donate those percentages?

The tax issue is a red herring and absolutely meaningless. What other candidate in a US election has ever released his/her tax records.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by tonywaits

Romney came clean today, he paid almost 2 million in taxes for 2011 and donated 4 million to charitable organizations, which is 30% of his income. When will Biden and Obama donate those percentages?

His tax rate was slightly under fifteen percent, what was your tax rate?

[tonywaits]

Originally Posted by randolph

His tax rate was slightly under fifteen percent, what was your tax rate?

So he only paid 15% on taxes, but donated 30% of his income to charity, and that's not enough. I guess you think it should all go to the government so it can be redistributed to the lazy, instead of the needy.

Would I be right in guessing that in the US, as it is in a lot of other countries, that giving money to charity is tax-deductable? In other words, it's a tax dodge.

And who were these 'needy' charities that he donated to? If it hasn't been disclosed, I'd be willing to bet a large chunk of it went to his church - who are hardly in need of any more cash the last time I looked...

[tonywaits]

Originally Posted by Natalie_J

Would I be right in guessing that in the US, as it is in a lot of other countries, that giving money to charity is tax-deductable? In other words, it's a tax dodge.

And who were these 'needy' charities that he donated to? If it hasn't been disclosed, I'd be willing to bet a large chunk of it went to his church - who are hardly in need of any more cash the last time I looked...

Where I live church's give to the needy, the government give to the lazy, for the most part.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by tonywaits

So he only paid 15% on taxes, but donated 30% of his income to charity, and that's not enough. I guess you think it should all go to the government so it can be redistributed to the lazy, instead of the needy.

He did not claim all his donations on his tax form to keep his rate above 13%, which triggers some kind of audit.

[tonywaits]

Originally Posted by randolph

He did not claim all his donations on his tax form to keep his rate above 13%, which triggers some kind of audit.

Perfectly legal, but do realize earned income and capital gains are taxed differently.