You didn't build that

[randolph]

Politicians of all stripes love to take statements out of context. Obama was simply saying that guys like Gates, Jobes and all the other creative businessmen, that develop amazing new businesses depend on investment capital and social infrastructures to succeed and the US system is very good at that. Can you imagine them succeeding without investors? Can you imagine them succeeding without a free market to sell their products. Can you imagine them succeeding in a country without a middle class?

[Tsloverib]

I sure did build my business MR PRESIDENT!!

And i did NOT have Government Assistance!!

Companies do not always need Government Assistance.

America can not operate soley on Government, is everyone going to work for the Government? NO, will not happen, and that leaves the private sector to supply jobs to the unemployed.

This President just does not get that, and myself, other business owners i know will not vote Obama this year.

[GRH]

Tsloverib...Humor me, what does your business engage in?

[smc]

Originally Posted by Tsloverib

I sure did build my business MR PRESIDENT!!

And i did NOT have Government Assistance!!

Companies do not always need Government Assistance.

America can not operate soley on Government, is everyone going to work for the Government? NO, will not happen, and that leaves the private sector to supply jobs to the unemployed.

This President just does not get that, and myself, other business owners i know will not vote Obama this year.

Of course, this post simply perpetuates the deliberate mischaracterization of what Obama (who, as I point out often, I do not support) actually said. Tsloverib, irrespective of what your business is, can you prove that there is absolutely nothing your business uses, enjoys, takes advantage of, etc., that was not built by the government and thus, by extension, the people who are not directly involved with your business. Do you drive on a road to get to work? Does water come into your place of business? If you work from your home, do you use the Internet in any way? Etc.? Etc.? Etc.?

The facile posturing of the pseudo-seriousness "debate" and criticism by those who continue to mischaracterize what was said by Obama and the true point of his remarks should be embarrassing to those involved. Instead, they thump their chests, smile with self-satisfaction, and continue to make the rest of the world shake its collective head at the insipid nature of American political discourse.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Politicians of all stripes love to take statements out of context. Obama was simply saying that guys like Gates, Jobes and all the other creative businessmen, that develop amazing new businesses depend on investment capital and social infrastructures to succeed and the US system is very good at that. Can you imagine them succeeding without investors? Can you imagine them succeeding without a free market to sell their products. Can you imagine them succeeding in a country without a middle class?

Job's buddy Wozniak built the first Apple in his garage. They did build their company. You talked about infrastructures. I'm not going to say companies don't need those infrastructures. But where does the money come from to build those infrastructures? From tax payers and their incomes from companies.

Originally Posted by randolph

Can you imagine them succeeding without investors?

Can you imagine investors forking over their money to people with no clue? The first thing an entrepreneur sells is their ideas and capabilities.

It's not just a one way street, it's a cycle, and the driver of that cycle is innovation from the private sector.

[tonywaits]

Obama and the Dems have brain washed so many. I don't feel that paying as much as 50% of my hard earned money so people that are to lazy to work can sit on there ass, is not what I call fair.

[TracyCoxx]

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Romney supporters sign the check on the front. Obama supporters sign the check on the back.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by tonywaits

Obama and the Dems have brain washed so many. I don't feel that paying as much as 50% of my hard earned money so people that are to lazy to work can sit on there ass, is not what I call fair.

You need to pay your "fair share" so that everyone can enjoy the pie.

[TracyCoxx]

I saw 2016: Obama's America

I would highly recommend it no matter what side you're on. This is not Michael Moore-like fiction. Much of it is actually narrated by Obama as he's reading from his book. There's also interviews with people from Obama's life, like his brother, his grandmother, Rev. Wright and others. You'll hear things from credible sources that will shock you, and also enlighten you. As I watched Obama bumble through his 1st term I couldn't understand what his motives were. It almost seemed like he was trying to screw things up. The movie presents a sort of model that explains Obama's actions and helps to predict what Obama's America will look like in 2016.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I saw 2016: Obama's America

I would highly recommend it no matter what side you're on. This is not Michael Moore-like fiction. Much of it is actually narrated by Obama as he's reading from his book. There's also interviews with people from Obama's life, like his brother, his grandmother, Rev. Wright and others. You'll hear things from credible sources that will shock you, and also enlighten you. As I watched Obama bumble through his 1st term I couldn't understand what his motives were. It almost seemed like he was trying to screw things up. The movie presents a sort of model that explains Obama's actions and helps to predict what Obama's America will look like in 2016.

I saw that movie yesterday. I highly recommend it.

[TracyCoxx]

Anyone planning on watching the DNC this week? I have sort of a morbid curiosity of how they can possibly spin the last 4 years as a success. And their biggest speaker besides the ticket is Bill Clinton who doesn't exactly agree with Obama.