Bi male wants to be enforced into a shemale

[tslust]

Originally Posted by littletwink

I don't understand why guys are not entitled to have forced feminization fantasies.

The more, the merrier, I say.

Well the ladies were experssing their feelings about their lifestyle being turned into a perverted fetich. And it's not about him siply haing a fantasy. The OP was asking to be forced into becoming a "shemale". His motivation is out of a sexual kink. What he, and many other guys (possibly yourself?) don't understand is that transitioning is a LIFESTYLE and can be very dangerous. I'm not just talking about the obvious medical concerns.

It's one thing to crossdress in the safety of your own house, where no one else can see you. Or to invite/meet guys or even GGs whom on some level enjoy the same pursuit (Either the guy likes dressing, himself or he just want's a gurl with something extra.) It's a whole other matter actually to step outside and I don't mean going to a club when they're having a drag queen night. The reason these ladies are upset is because the OP is trying to bring their lifestyle down to the same level as his fetich.

(Granted, I'm not living 24/7 as a female yet.) Do you realize that there are people who would kill us just for being who we are? Just last week, while talking online at an unnamed dating site, my life was threatened multiple times by guys who suspected that I might not be a GG.

What an ugly thread to resurrect ! The worst, maybe. Something out of the museum of horrors.
T-women are confronted to so much hardships and so many challenges, both intimately and socially, I can understand why you and other ladies would be upset by such a fetish, tslust. Besides, there is indeed some real psychos out there. I just can’t understand why some people are so enraged by diverging ways of living life, especially when it doesn’t touch theirs in any fashion. I guess that most often, the values they seem to think so solid are not very well assured in their own lives… Shows much uncertainty on their part despite the rigid and moralistic fa?ade they present.
Anyways, tslust, be careful; I enjoy reading your posts and I wouldn’t want anything to happen to you.

[littletwink]

Originally Posted by tslust

Well the ladies were experssing their feelings about their lifestyle being turned into a perverted fetich. And it's not about him siply haing a fantasy. The OP was asking to be forced into becoming a "shemale". His motivation is out of a sexual kink. What he, and many other guys (possibly yourself?) don't understand is that transitioning is a LIFESTYLE and can be very dangerous. I'm not just talking about the obvious medical concerns.

It's one thing to crossdress in the safety of your own house, where no one else can see you. Or to invite/meet guys or even GGs whom on some level enjoy the same pursuit (Either the guy likes dressing, himself or he just want's a gurl with something extra.) It's a whole other matter actually to step outside and I don't mean going to a club when they're having a drag queen night. The reason these ladies are upset is because the OP is trying to bring their lifestyle down to the same level as his fetich.

(Granted, I'm not living 24/7 as a female yet.) Do you realize that there are people who would kill us just for being who we are? Just last week, while talking online at an unnamed dating site, my life was threatened multiple times by guys who suspected that I might not be a GG.

I am not happy to hear you have been threatened just for being yourself.

Isn't porn such a great equalizer though? There are a great many aggressive male homophobes who have said they have no desire to be with other men while admitting they do not want to find out if they might like it. Yet those same guys will watch 'straight' porn and have no reservations about looking at another man's cock.

I am happy that this site is generally supportive of real-life TS women and men as well as CDs/TVs, but am I crazy for thinking it should be ok to discuss kink on a site that features so much pornography of willing adults?

I know some very nice guys who love forced feminization or sissification sessions and an often included aspect of that involves the dominant woman or M2F CF referring to the submissive male as a 'weak little girl' or something like that, the implication being that female is inherently inferior to or weaker than male. It' s just their fantasy, it doesn't make it true.

Some of those guys are hardcore into the fantasy and will even take hormones for months in the hopes of their breasts becoming more tender. They are taking on a partial transition for their own reasons and I don't think kink should be outlawed. Real TS women are certainly entitled to scoff at those individuals, but as a part-time CD/TV myself who has been teased about my preferences and behaviors, I don't think my lifestyle has any real impact on TS's except as much as my 'non-queer' friends find me an acceptable part of their lives, despite my queerness.

I am not a TS, but there are times when I identify as a woman and I sometimes like playing dress up with my wife and some girlfriends and allowing them to do some of those things in the realm of feminization.

Littletwink, I think you’re right on the principle. We should be able to discuss kinky fantasies such as this one on this site. It seems to me the problem emerges when we try to compare the incomparable. You yourself are by your own admission a transvestite. You take pleasure in sometimes dressing as a woman and assuming a woman’s role. And there is nothing wrong with that, on the contrary. A transsexual is someone who feels desperately trapped in a body that doesn’t fit his/her inner feeling of gender identity. In all probability, it’s a crushing feeling of inadequacy that as to be overcome by an enormous work on the physical self, by any usual standards. A transsexual has no choice, a situation which differs completely with that of a transvestite, of course. There lies the problem, as much as I can tell: it’s that implicit suggestion that this fantasy, which is a weird, very extreme form of transvestism, especially if you go as far as acting it out, has anything to do with the harsh reality of a transsexual woman. Wouldn’t you acknowledge that it doesn’t?
I think we can agree to discuss anything indeed, but it has to take a respectful form that is somewhat lacking here (and I don’t mean to point to you personally: on the contrary, you express yourself with respect). The comparison in itself is shocking. I can’t substitute myself to the ladies in such matter, but I suppose it is their opinion on it.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by littletwink

Isn't porn such a great equalizer though? There are a great many aggressive male homophobes who have said they have no desire to be with other men while admitting they do not want to find out if they might like it. Yet those same guys will watch 'straight' porn and have no reservations about looking at another man's cock.

I am happy that this site is generally supportive of real-life TS women and men as well as CDs/TVs, but am I crazy for thinking it should be ok to discuss kink on a site that features so much pornography of willing adults?

Homophobes are so hypocritical. Most of them are secretly gay. They manifest their hatred of themselves, coupled with trying to show how masculine and "straight" they are, onto others. So instead of dealing with their issues, they decide to take it out on a gay or trans person. To quote Ron White, "We're all gay, it's just to what extent are you gay?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY711HJK7pg

I totally understand the forced femmination/femm domination fetichs. I'm not saying people can't discuss them. What I was refering to is the people who can't understand the difference between a fetich and a lifestyle. What the OP was talking about was some kind of role-playing fantasy. A M2F (or even F2M, just to be fair) transition should never be forced on someone. It should be a personal decision made after a lot of soul searching and maybee some counseling.