Bi male wants to be enforced into a shemale

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

DOWN GIRL, DOWN.

There is a wright way to do things and a wrong way, that was the wrong way.

Read my post and the subsequent ones to see how to do things ther right way conserning things like thes.

Remember the "TROLL" kidlife? Well you are reacting like him!


JohnDowe.

Fran said what I would have said. I would have said it differently, but the end result would have been the same.

Trans* is something you are not something you become. It is not a sexual kink, it is not a way to snag partners, it is not an exotic adventure.

Transition surgeries hurts physically. Hormones can be dangerous not to mention totally fuck with your emotions. The legal aspects are a bloody nightmare.

Porn makes this so sexy and enticing. Reality, like a brick needs to shatter that for the unwary.

Fran -

[franalexes]

This sisterly thing works pretty well.
Thanks Bionca.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Fran said what I would have said. I would have said it differently, but the end result would have been the same.

Trans* is something you are not something you become. It is not a sexual kink, it is not a way to snag partners, it is not an exotic adventure.

Transition surgeries hurts physically. Hormones can be dangerous not to mention totally fuck with your emotions. The legal aspects are a bloody nightmare.

Porn makes this so sexy and enticing. Reality, like a brick needs to shatter that for the unwary.

Fran -

Hi there.

Bionca, after all the exchanges we had, don't you know that i have some idea of the problems that are associated with transitionning? and what problems tgirls go through while and after transitionning?

Well?

So, why did i tell her to chill out?

You SHOULD know the reason.

But if you don't i will explain.


She acted like a savage, not thinking before posting, and beeing rude, inconsiderate, and dis-respectfull, this is not what this forum is about, and here and everywhere else for that mater, everybody is entitled to their opinion, weather it is right or wrong, smart or stupid, it is their opinion, you can talk to them if you think or know that they are wrong, but IS THAT WHAT SHE DID? No, she attacked him and dis-respected him, AND in the end IT IS HIS LIFE, he can do whatever he wants with it, wheather you agree with it or not, what she did is the same as the gay bashers do, she didn't understand she attacked, except that she did it through the forrum, less blood of course, but neither is good, both are stupid actions.

It wasn't what she said it was HOW she said it!

And what about that post she directed at me?

Was that well behaved and respectfull?

And you taking her side, after seeing how she responded, i AM disappointed in the both of you.

JohnDowe.

[ila]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Bionca, after all the exchanges we had, don't you know that i have some idea of the problems that are associated with transitionning? and what problems tgirls go through while and after transitionning?

Well?

So, why did i tell her to chill out?

You SHOULD know the reason.

But if you don't i will explain.


She acted like a savage, not thinking before posting, and beeing rude, inconsiderate, and dis-respectfull, this is not what this forum is about, and here and everywhere else for that mater, everybody is entitled to their opinion, weather it is right or wrong, smart or stupid, it is their opinion, you can talk to them if you think or know that they are wrong, but IS THAT WHAT SHE DID? No, she attacked him and dis-respected him, AND in the end IT IS HIS LIFE, he can do whatever he wants with it, wheather you agree with it or not, what she did is the same as the gay bashers do, she didn't understand she attacked, except that she did it through the forrum, less blood of course, but neither is good, both are stupid actions.

It wasn't what she said it was HOW she said it!

And what about that post she directed at me?

Was that well behaved and respectfull?

And you taking her side, after seeing how she responded, i AM disappointed in the both of you.

JohnDowe.

John, need I remind you of your less than civilized responses to other members? If you like I can go back through all of your posts and quote them in a thread to illustrate what I mean. Then we can let others decide how respectful you are.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by ila

John, need I remind you of your less than civilized responses to other members? If you like I can go back through all of your posts and quote them in a thread to illustrate what I mean. Then we can let others decide how respectful you are.

Hi there.

You saw what she wrote, and you tell ME to chill out?

DID you READ what i wrote or did you just see the words "savage, rude, inconsiderate and dis-respectfull" and nothing else?


Well, why don't you do that, but don't forget to also quote what i was responding to.

PS. I am respectfull when i am respected, and i don't sugar coat things that need to be said, i just say it, in my family, when there was something hard to do, they all left it for me to do, it had to be done i did it, everybody expected good results, i got good results, because when someone needed a slap in the face i gave them a slap in the face, as far as i'm conserned i was the only one with balls in my family, that's why i left them, i don't like weak shit, i don't like it when someone attacks someone unprovoked, and if i can i interviene.

JohnDowe.

[ila]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

You saw what she wrote, and you tell ME to chill out?......

Actually, John, I didn't tell you to chill out. I was just reminding you that you have not always been so respctful to others.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by ila

Actually, John, I didn't tell you to chill out. I was just reminding you that you have not always been so respctful to others.

Hi there.

But, again, was FRAN RESPECTFUL of UKTONY43?

Did she act like a savage?

Was she rude?


JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

No i don't see the offence, i see a guy who has a very unrealistic fantasy and needs to be told, but not like Fran did, that's what the gay bashers think and do.

JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

PS. I am respectfull when i am respected, and i don't sugar coat things that need to be said, i just say it, in my family, when there was something hard to do, they all left it for me to do, it had to be done i did it, everybody expected good results, i got good results, because when someone needed a slap in the face i gave them a slap in the face, as far as i'm conserned i was the only one with balls in my family, that's why i left them, i don't like weak shit, i don't like it when someone attacks someone unprovoked, and if i can i interviene.

JohnDowe.

Then you should fully understand Fran's reply. No sugar, said what needed said, slap in the face... etc.

There was ample provocation.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Bionca, after all the exchanges we had, don't you know that i have some idea of the problems that are associated with transitionning? and what problems tgirls go through while and after transitionning?

Well?

So, why did i tell her to chill out?

You SHOULD know the reason.

But if you don't i will explain.


She acted like a savage, not thinking before posting, and beeing rude, inconsiderate, and dis-respectfull, this is not what this forum is about, and here and everywhere else for that mater, everybody is entitled to their opinion, weather it is right or wrong, smart or stupid, it is their opinion, you can talk to them if you think or know that they are wrong, but IS THAT WHAT SHE DID? No, she attacked him and dis-respected him, AND in the end IT IS HIS LIFE, he can do whatever he wants with it, wheather you agree with it or not, what she did is the same as the gay bashers do, she didn't understand she attacked, except that she did it through the forrum, less blood of course, but neither is good, both are stupid actions.

It wasn't what she said it was HOW she said it!

And what about that post she directed at me?

Was that well behaved and respectfull?

And you taking her side, after seeing how she responded, i AM disappointed in the both of you.

JohnDowe.

John, this isn't about your understanding of trans stuff. This is about someone (the OP) being offensive and Fran and I having a gut-level reaction to that. I don't expect any non-trans member to really understand why this post was problematic or just how much it offended me (and probably Fran). Heck, I don't expect that every trans poster here will get it or agree with what has been said.

Wether it was the OPs intention or not, he makes transitioning - the process of going from M2F a totally passive inaction on his part. It becomes a fetish for him to be made into a Shemale. No thought, no process, just wank material. It slaps every actual transitioning girl who posts here in the face. Girls looking for advice, support, and appreciation.

Civility should be supported and encouraged. Appropriation of trans women's lives should not be made into a Bi guy's fist humps.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by Bionca

John, this isn't about your understanding of trans stuff. This is about someone (the OP) being offensive and Fran and I having a gut-level reaction to that. I don't expect any non-trans member to really understand why this post was problematic or just how much it offended me (and probably Fran). Heck, I don't expect that every trans poster here will get it or agree with what has been said.

Wether it was the OPs intention or not, he makes transitioning - the process of going from M2F a totally passive inaction on his part. It becomes a fetish for him to be made into a Shemale. No thought, no process, just wank material. It slaps every actual transitioning girl who posts here in the face. Girls looking for advice, support, and appreciation.

Civility should be supported and encouraged. Appropriation of trans women's lives should not be made into a Bi guy's fist humps.

Hi there.

Be that as it may, it doesn't give you the right to bite his head off, and i reiterate:

There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way, that was the wrong way! PERIOD!

It's not: There is a right way and a wrong way, unless...

JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Be that as it may, it doesn't give you the right to bite his head off, and i reiterate:

There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way, that was the wrong way! PERIOD!

It's not: There is a right way and a wrong way, unless...

JohnDowe.

Nope.

Hit a raw nerve, you get a scream.

OTOH - What should have been said to the OP?

[franalexes]

, i AM disappointed in the both of you.

JohnDowe.[/QUOTE]

Gee Bionca, 35,000 members and we lost one.
( moment of silence here)
on with life!