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Hi there.
No i don't see the offence, i see a guy who has a very unrealistic fantasy and needs to be told, but not like Fran did, that's what the gay bashers think and do. JohnDowe. |
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I think Fran put it very succinctly even if it was somewhat blunt. It looks to me like Fran delivered a reality check, backed up Bionca and GRH.
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It belittles EVERYTHING I had to do - it is more profoundly insulting than page after page of "shemale" and "real girls" - those are things said out of genuine ignorance. The OP is a statement of willful ignorance and fantasy/wish fulfillment. And no, what Fran did was tell someone to step off her life and experience and not appropriate it for his own. I was defending the single most important thing I ever did. This is not the same as gay bashers.
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John,
3 of 3 trans women here have a problem with the post. Getting 3 TGs to agree on anything is a rare event. Obviously there is something in the post this hits a nerve. In a single simple sentence the OP erases years of lived experience and reality. In one tiny statement reality and motivation are replaced by fantasy and fetish. That is not something that a person who is not Trans is going to easily be able to get. But, it is real and it has history and it never ends well for trans women.
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I see what Bionca is saying and I have to agree with her last post. I could see how this could be offensive; belittling something so important and turning into a simple sex fantasy. That's just offensive and wrong.
No offense to you Uktony, but I have to tell you that that's a ridiculous fantasy. |
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Bionca, i always try to see arguemants from all the the participant's perspectives, i believe that i did that, and that's why i told fran to chill out, it was his fantasy, she got offended and cried blody murder, i try to make the peace, i get threatend by fran, then you and fran get on my back about how you feel about what he said, which i understood, but not to the full extent, but it's the HOW SHE DID IT that i object to, you have feelings, so do i, i have a brain, so do you, i can control my emotions 99% of the time, so can you, and this ISN'T a 1% of the time, as far as i am conserned, and you yourself stated that you would have done it differently, so where's the beef? Also, for all we know he could be a transsexual, but s/he is afraid to start transitionning and needs a little push... JohnDowe. Last edited by johndowe; 09-26-2009 at 07:17 PM. |
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The circus is in town!!
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