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Old 03-08-2012
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Well I do agree with you. Just not the way to express your point. You could of easily said you prefer androgyny in the trans girls you find attractive.
And the reason you're getting some flack because of your post, is due to the way you phrased it. But you're new to understanding transgender people. So you get some slack from me.

For me. I never liked the so called "perfect look". Tons of makeup, plastic surgery, and what not. I like natural beauty. And yes taking hormones to become what you rightly are is natural in my opinion.
I'm also not attracted to porn stars. Unless I already know them, or they got out of the industry like Bee did.

I also really like femininity and androgyny in women (including trans girls ) and feminine guys.
Though I don't like androgyny in masculine guys. That's just a huge turn off to me.

And like you I'm totally speaking on a visual aspect.



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Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder. As we grow older our view of beauty can change. For an old geezer, a fifty year old women can look gorgeous. For a teenager, a fifty year old women would look ancient.
Also "attractiveness" is not necessarily related to beauty. Somebody may be very attractive for intellect, skills or yes, sexuality and not be a beauty. Of course sexual skills and beauty would be a highly desirable combination.
OK lets throw intellect in there too
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And totally agree with Randolph here. :D
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Well I do agree with you. Just not the way to express your point. You could of easily said you prefer androgyny in the trans girls you find attractive.
And the reason you're getting some flack because of your post, is due to the way you phrased it. But you're new to understanding transgender people. So you get some slack from me.

For me. I never liked the so called "perfect look". Tons of makeup, plastic surgery, and what not. I like natural beauty. And yes taking hormones to become what you rightly are is natural in my opinion.
I'm also not attracted to porn stars. Unless I already know them, or they got out of the industry like Bee did.

I also really like femininity and androgyny in women (including trans girls ) and feminine guys.
Though I don't like androgyny in masculine guys. That's just a huge turn off to me.

And like you I'm totally speaking on a visual aspect.
When I first saw that a new member had bumped this old, old thread, I shook my head and wished it hadn't happened. But then I realized that it provides another opportunity to remind people of how much the words you choose matter.

I agree with ThirdEyeGirl's statement that the "flak" comes from the very poor choice of words by the OP.

As for my own view, I have noted on several occasions in other posts that there are certain transwomen that I find particularly beautiful for a reason that is difficult for me to put into words. It is a certain "androgyny" aspect, but that does not quite capture it. Rather, it is that I can see the birth person a bit in the face. I am choosing my words carefully, because I would never say to any transwoman that "I can see what you once were," because I truly believe that what my transwomen friends ALWAYS were is what they have "transitioned" to be today.

Nevertheless, there is a handful of trans pornstars who have this "look" to which I refer, and I find them particularly beautiful.

Ah, wonderful subjectivity! As Shakespeare wrote in A Midsummer Night's Dream:
"Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind,
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind."
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It is a certain "androgyny" aspect, but that does not quite capture it. Rather, it is that I can see the birth person a bit in the face. I am choosing my words carefully, because I would never say to any transwoman that "I can see what you once were," because I truly believe that what my transwomen friends ALWAYS were is what they have "transitioned" to be today.
Haha... Yeah. There are a lot of us trans women that would get self conscious about a statement like that. Even as how you put it.
But I'd just go right out and say it, and have. "I can see you have masculine features in your face. But than many cisgender women have masculine features as well. And I find it just as attractive on them as I do on trans women."
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Haha... Yeah. There are a lot of us trans women that would get self conscious about a statement like that. Even as how you put it.
But I'd just go right out and say it, and have. "I can see you have masculine features in your face. But than many cisgender women have masculine features as well. And I find it just as attractive on them as I do on trans women."
Well, with all due respect, I think you can get away with just coming out and saying it a lot easier than can I.
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Well, with all due respect, I think you can get away with just coming out and saying it a lot easier than can I.
Yeah, maybe.
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I think it all depend on everyones taste and likes. I like to see beautiful genetic girl and beautiful trans girl, so I don't think tgirl could be too beautiful or too feminine. In my opinion this could say only someone who is jealous on her beauty. Also tgirl at the beginning of her transition with clear masculine traces on her face and body could be also very beautiful and feminine, because it is not all in outside looking, but also in energy inside.
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