Two part question for t-girls and admirers alike.

Originally Posted by Melissa Pink

Contrary to you I do consider myself a member of the "third sex". Psychologically, emotionally and sexually I am quite female but I know that even with a surgically fabricated vagina I'll always be a genetic male.

Well ty for your answers. I do appreciate them.
Though for the quoted section above. I thought I might share something with you. I should probably find a link to this study, but never the less here it is. A transsexual woman is a real girl and a gg (genetic girl). There was a study (in Sweden I believe) in the early noughties (that's 2000 to 2009 for those that don't know) where a sample of pre and post transition transsexual women (meaning before and after hormone treatment) cadavers to see if their brain chemistry and make up were similar or not to cis female brains. The study showed that they were in fact identical.
So it's been proven that transsexual women are truly female brained. So saying that they are not true or real women is a false misconception.

So the way I take that is... All transsexuals, be it men or women, are genetically so (as far as brain chemistry goes). So no mater what your body was to begin with... I say your brain conveys everything about you. Including your gender.

But ty again Melissa.

[Melissa Pink]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Well ty for your answers. I do appreciate them.
Though for the quoted section above. I thought I might share something with you. I should probably find a link to this study, but never the less here it is. A transsexual woman is a real girl and a gg (genetic girl). There was a study (in Sweden I believe) in the early noughties (that's 2000 to 2009 for those that don't know) where a sample of pre and post transition transsexual women (meaning before and after hormone treatment) cadavers to see if their brain chemistry and make up were similar or not to cis female brains. The study showed that they were in fact identical.
So it's been proven that transsexual women are truly female brained. So saying that they are not true or real women is a false misconception.

So the way I take that is... All transsexuals, be it men or women, are genetically so (as far as brain chemistry goes). So no mater what your body was to begin with... I say your brain conveys everything about you. Including your gender.

But ty again Melissa.

Thank you for the feedback! I would definitely like to read that Swedish study. I suspect that there is some truth to the study. All that I meant by stating that I was a member of the "third gender" is that in society we often aren't totally accepted and I have learned to be comfortable with being a transgender. If anyone is troubled by that it's their problem!

I have always felt like my brain was wired like a female. Even when I was doing macho things in the military, sports, etc. I always identified with being a woman. Once I went with my feelings and began my transition and started to date and have sexual relationships I hardly felt like I was "gay". Quite to the contrary, I feel like a woman regardless of my genetic background. I agree that our brain conveys who we are including our gender.
Thanks again!

Originally Posted by Melissa Pink

Thank you for the feedback! I would definitely like to read that Swedish study. I suspect that there is some truth to the study. All that I meant by stating that I was a member of the "third gender" is that in society we often aren't totally accepted and I have learned to be comfortable with being a transgender. If anyone is troubled by that it's their problem!

I have always felt like my brain was wired like a female. Even when I was doing macho things in the military, sports, etc. I always identified with being a woman. Once I went with my feelings and began my transition and started to date and have sexual relationships I hardly felt like I was "gay". Quite to the contrary, I feel like a woman regardless of my genetic background. I agree that our brain conveys who we are including our gender.
Thanks again!

Your very much welcome Melissa.
And of course I know what you mean about transgendered people in our up society. But all we can really do is stand up proud and try and educate as many people as we possibly can.

The study you're talking about was actually Dutch, not Swedish. I seem to remember seeing something about it on the TV over here in the UK a couple of years back. Although the findings were just as you said, I seem to recall that the sample was pretty small - for obvious reasons - so they were reluctant to draw too many conclusions from it.

Having joined in on this thread now, I suppose I'd better do my best to answer your questions as well...

I guess if I considered myself anything it would be Androgynous. I seem to be stuck somewhere in the middle really - although I spend a good chunk of my time as a male I have a very strong female side that I need to express as well. Right now, I doubt I'd want to go any furthur than that but you can never tell in the future. I do find dressing sexy, but I've been dressing on and off now since I was about 12, so it kinda started before I began muddying the waters with a lot of sexual identity questions. However, if I am going to dress I like to look as feminine as possible. That would extend to meeting people dressed as well.

Being called Shemale or Ladyboy isn't great really - I've actually had somebody call me a Ladyboy once, just because I had long hair at the time (I wasn't even dressed when they said it either!) - and Tranny isn't wonderful either. Mind you, I've heard a lot worse - perhaps I'm just a bit too laid back about it

Sexually, I prefer cis women, unless I'm dressed in which case I tend to go for guys more, although that's not set in stone by any means. If I'm not dressed I really don't look at guys much at all.

Originally Posted by Natalie_J

The study you're talking about was actually Dutch, not Swedish. I seem to remember seeing something about it on the TV over here in the UK a couple of years back. Although the findings were just as you said, I seem to recall that the sample was pretty small - for obvious reasons - so they were reluctant to draw too many conclusions from it.

Having joined in on this thread now, I suppose I'd better do my best to answer your questions as well...

I guess if I considered myself anything it would be Androgynous. I seem to be stuck somewhere in the middle really - although I spend a good chunk of my time as a male I have a very strong female side that I need to express as well. Right now, I doubt I'd want to go any furthur than that but you can never tell in the future. I do find dressing sexy, but I've been dressing on and off now since I was about 12, so it kinda started before I began muddying the waters with a lot of sexual identity questions. However, if I am going to dress I like to look as feminine as possible. That would extend to meeting people dressed as well.

Being called Shemale or Ladyboy isn't great really - I've actually had somebody call me a Ladyboy once, just because I had long hair at the time (I wasn't even dressed when they said it either!) - and Tranny isn't wonderful either. Mind you, I've heard a lot worse - perhaps I'm just a bit too laid back about it

Sexually, I prefer cis women, unless I'm dressed in which case I tend to go for guys more, although that's not set in stone by any means. If I'm not dressed I really don't look at guys much at all.

Well ty for that clarification, and thank you for you input Natalie.
Hehe... Leave it to the dutch to be more progressively awesome than the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by Melissa Pink

Thank you for the feedback! I would definitely like to read that Swedish study. I suspect that there is some truth to the study.

I found a link to that study if you're still interested in reading it. Though it's a bit hard to follow for someone who isn't in that particular field.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/85/5/2034.full

I also referenced it here. http://forum.transladyboy.com/showth...580#post209580