Two part question for t-girls and admirers alike.

Originally Posted by randolph

I like your thoughtful perceptive questions. The development of the human embryo as originally female and later on the male genes and hormones kick in to produce a male baby is very important in understanding the male/female aspect of our human nature. I think all of us are still part male and part female.
Outwardly, I am a male and I think like a male but deep inside, I know there is a female essence, the soul if you will. The male ego keeps this female essence suppressed but it is there and can arise if we allow it. It is called Kundalini Yoga in India.

Well that's very interesting... Though my male side isn't very prominent at all. I had to learn to emulate masculine behavior when I was a teenager and was subject to testosterone (witch I hated), but that's about the extent of my masculinity. Though I do still have "masculine interests". I.E.; cars, guns, technology.

Originally Posted by aw9725

Thinking about answering your questions and have enjoyed reading yours and other?s thoughtful responses. This could be a good thread. I know I have already written about this topic somewhere in over 900 posts and don?t want to repeat? Like smc, I make a distinction between genuine ?admirers? and what are known derisively as ?tranny chasers.?

Well I'm glad you enjoyed reading my post... Though I would of liked to of read your thoughts on the matter. I mean if you didn't want to write about it again (witch I understand), you could of at least added a link to the post where you did write about it (if it was on this site that is).

Originally Posted by mabedzaqueen

Okay Miranda, i rarely venture out of the "freebies" section but your post sparked my interest in such a way that i simply needed to comment...

Your 1st question: i believe my attraction (to T-girls) is about 95% sexual; i mean a true relationship would be nice but i'm not enough of a gentleman for it... As an "admirer" though, i tend to have long-term "crushes" with just a few of 'em (can't explain that, but it's "fantasy" territory). Thoughts about TG myself ? I've read posts by male members who seem in very good terms with their "feminine side" - well, it looks like mine has chosen to remain silent...

Your 2nd question (the dreadful terms): honestly, over the years i have come to terms (no pun) with the idea of a "3rd gender" for MtoF pre-op TS women and this seems quite accepted in many places around the world, this forum being an exception... and i respect this by not sharing my thoughts on the subject here (i got over-enthusiastic one time last spring but that's it!)

Now, about the (fascinating) epilogue of your post: find it great that you tried to have sex with gay guys, though i'm a bit saddened by your conclusion; (just my opinion here, Miranda) you say they viewed you as a man, quite possible, but maybe they also viewed you as a gift - not a "trophy", rather a dream-come-true??
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Dennis.

So glad that you did respond. I was hoping for people similar to you to do so.

Well feel free to elaborate if you'd like. No judgement here. Just maybe added insight. Also, non-op trans men would be included in that "third gender".

You may be right about the gay guys that I have been with that thought I was a "dream come true". But all but one of them didn't find any kind of female sexually attractive. The exception is the last (self identifying) gay man who said he only has sex with men and non or pre-op transsexual women.

Ty Dennis.

Originally Posted by smc

I presume that your reference is to an exchange that others can find from last April. In my view, that exchange was NOT about the concept of a third gender, which was mentioned in the posts but was not the source of what you confound here as this forum not being accepting of the concept. It is a completely worthy topic of discussion.

I agree... It is worthy off topic discussion.

Ty SMC.

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Well I'm glad you enjoyed reading my post... Though I would of liked to of read your thoughts on the matter. I mean if you didn't want to write about it again (witch I understand), you could of at least added a link to the post where you did write about it (if it was on this site that is).

For me at least I am convinced more than ever that I am attracted exclusively to the female person and form. What’s “down there” is secondary. After being a member here now for a little over two years and getting to know many of you it is interesting to read other’s responses on this topic—as well as the related “Am I Gay?” question. What I believe is that each one of us is correct—at least when it comes to our own identification. The trouble starts when we begin to label others. Here is something to ask yourself… What are you first attracted to when you meet someone? Is it their smile? Their eyes? Legs? A great ass? (well that about covers it for me… ) The way they laugh? The book they were reading? The coffee they were drinking? The car they were driving? The subject they were studying? You don’t even really know whether the person you met and are attracted to is genetically male of female at first. So you are attracted to that tall blue-eyed blonde with the long legs? Well what’s wrong with that? They have a nice personality? Awesome. Are fun to talk to? Great. You have a lot in common? You sense “attraction”? You want to “do” them right there? LOL! Again I can only speak for myself, but if everything else was a “go” it really wouldn’t matter to me whether or not my new friend was genetically male or female.

As far as trans “porn” sites go--of course we “know” all about the models because that is what is advertised quite blatantly. But back to real life. How do you “know”? And does it matter? Long ago I concluded it did not. Although I have dated many women, both my current and ex-wife have similar physical characteristics. And ironically both are nurses. My own picture posts here will confirm that I am indeed attracted to a certain “look.” And I’m sure we all have our own preferences in one way or another. That’s why it’s so exciting when we do finally find “the one.”

Just for fun I decided to see if I could find “Mariana” again (see attached pics). She was one of the very first “t-girls” I was ever attracted to and at the time I used to wonder if I was “turning gay.” Even back then however I decided that it didn’t matter—and if liking Mariana did in fact make me “gay” then I was OK with that. More than anything else it started me on a search for understanding and brought me to this site—initially as a “lurker.” But it wasn’t until I read an interview with someone named Kelly Shore that things began to come together. In it she relates how she identified as a girl from a very young age and also many of the challenges she faced while growing up. Over the last two years as a member of this site, I have learned much more and come to better understand and accept these feelings totally.

Even before any of this however, the “gay or straight” question was irrelevant to me as while I have always identified as exclusively heterosexual, I have had many gay friends and actively participated in many “rights” type events over the years. While never having engaged in “gay sex,” I don’t think it is wrong and if I were to find the right guy… If you search my posts you will find a description of a possible “missed encounter” with a dorm mate in college—if I had that opportunity again, who knows? He’s also the one I kept from becoming a victim of violence:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...5&postcount=20

For the most part, I am not attracted to the “stereotypical” male body or personality. I have played competitive sports including American football and was never attracted to anyone that I ever saw in the locker room or on the field—except the cheerleaders… The bottom line is that one is able to accept and be happy with who they are. However you “identify” it’s all good.

So as to not repeat everything here are a few more of my previous posts:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...&postcount=104
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...8&postcount=16
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...&postcount=439
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...1&postcount=32
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...0&postcount=32
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...&postcount=304

Hope that’s a better response to your questions. Used to have a lot of personal info in my profile as well as a picture but took it out for various reasons. If I become active here again I will put it back. In the meantime smc, ila, and Shadows know quite a bit about me.

Where does that leave me now? Well since I’m married I’m not exactly in a position to “explore” my interest—at least not that way. On the other hand, as ila and others have suggested I can bring a different perspective to some of the discussions here. And of course I will always remain active in supporting LGBT rights—especially things like “Stopping the Hate.”

Andrew

[jizzfactory]

I personally find shemales just really fucking hot! Altough i really would like to get know one in person, like I really could't pay for sex, it just isnt me

Sorry for the extremely late reply. And this is also a shameless thread bump.

Originally Posted by jizzfactory

I personally find shemales just really fucking hot! Altough i really would like to get know one in person, like I really could't pay for sex, it just isnt me

If you truly want to get to know a "shemale" , as you put it. Than you might want to learn how to address them as a human being instead of a sex object. Sense you are not one to pay for sex.

Mainly because most transsexual women would never refer to themselves as "shemale". With the exception of girls who are in the adult entertainment industry.

Also I'd would appreciate you taking a bit more effort in answering my questions. I would like to know.

[Wendy Summers]

For the record TL;DR

But my answer is "No"

What's the question?

Originally Posted by Wendy Summers

For the record TL;DR

But my answer is "No"

What's the question?

Well sorry Wendy... But you'll have to take the time to read said long post.

Though just because you asked. Here is the one that was directed towards us trans girls. :P

Do any of you girls (like myself) find the terms "shemale, ladyboy, or dick girl" offensive? Do you view yourself as the third gender? Are you planing on having SRS (or have already gone through the process)? Did you ever get sexually aroused by dressing before you transitioned (I know that's autogynophila)? Or did you get sexually aroused because you could finally see yourself being sexual as your true gender or your partner being attracted to the girl that they see before them?
Now I know ladyboy is a direct translation for the thai word "Kathoey" and is to distinguish the difference between a cis male and cis woman. Cause the thai don't have a word for a pre-op transsexual woman. They are just women.


Hope that's not too long, so you don't tl,dr.

[Wendy Summers]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Well sorry Wendy... But you'll have to take the time to read said long post.

Though just because you asked. Here is the one that was directed towards us trans girls. :P

Do any of you girls (like myself) find the terms "shemale, ladyboy, or dick girl" offensive? Do you view yourself as the third gender? Are you planing on having SRS (or have already gone through the process)? Did you ever get sexually aroused by dressing before you transitioned (I know that's autogynophila)? Or did you get sexually aroused because you could finally see yourself being sexual as your true gender or your partner being attracted to the girl that they see before them?
Now I know ladyboy is a direct translation for the thai word "Kathoey" and is to distinguish the difference between a cis male and cis woman. Cause the thai don't have a word for a pre-op transsexual woman. They are just women.


Hope that's not too long, so you don't tl,dr.

tl; DR

Try posting some eye candy with it. Bitches love eye candy

Originally Posted by aw9725

For me at least I am convinced more than ever that I am attracted exclusively to the female person and form. What?s ?down there? is secondary. After being a member here now for a little over two years and getting to know many of you it is interesting to read other?s responses on this topic?as well as the related ?Am I Gay?? question. What I believe is that each one of us is correct?at least when it comes to our own identification. The trouble starts when we begin to label others. Here is something to ask yourself? What are you first attracted to when you meet someone? Is it their smile? Their eyes? Legs? A great ass? (well that about covers it for me? ) The way they laugh? The book they were reading? The coffee they were drinking? The car they were driving? The subject they were studying? You don?t even really know whether the person you met and are attracted to is genetically male of female at first. So you are attracted to that tall blue-eyed blonde with the long legs? Well what?s wrong with that? They have a nice personality? Awesome. Are fun to talk to? Great. You have a lot in common? You sense ?attraction?? You want to ?do? them right there? LOL! Again I can only speak for myself, but if everything else was a ?go? it really wouldn?t matter to me whether or not my new friend was genetically male or female.

As far as trans ?porn? sites go--of course we ?know? all about the models because that is what is advertised quite blatantly. But back to real life. How do you ?know?? And does it matter? Long ago I concluded it did not. Although I have dated many women, both my current and ex-wife have similar physical characteristics. And ironically both are nurses. My own picture posts here will confirm that I am indeed attracted to a certain ?look.? And I?m sure we all have our own preferences in one way or another. That?s why it?s so exciting when we do finally find ?the one.?

Just for fun I decided to see if I could find ?Mariana? again (see attached pics). She was one of the very first ?t-girls? I was ever attracted to and at the time I used to wonder if I was ?turning gay.? Even back then however I decided that it didn?t matter?and if liking Mariana did in fact make me ?gay? then I was OK with that. More than anything else it started me on a search for understanding and brought me to this site?initially as a ?lurker.? But it wasn?t until I read an interview with someone named Kelly Shore that things began to come together. In it she relates how she identified as a girl from a very young age and also many of the challenges she faced while growing up. Over the last two years as a member of this site, I have learned much more and come to better understand and accept these feelings totally.

Even before any of this however, the ?gay or straight? question was irrelevant to me as while I have always identified as exclusively heterosexual, I have had many gay friends and actively participated in many ?rights? type events over the years. While never having engaged in ?gay sex,? I don?t think it is wrong and if I were to find the right guy? If you search my posts you will find a description of a possible ?missed encounter? with a dorm mate in college?if I had that opportunity again, who knows? He?s also the one I kept from becoming a victim of violence:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...5&postcount=20

For the most part, I am not attracted to the ?stereotypical? male body or personality. I have played competitive sports including American football and was never attracted to anyone that I ever saw in the locker room or on the field?except the cheerleaders? The bottom line is that one is able to accept and be happy with who they are. However you ?identify? it?s all good.

So as to not repeat everything here are a few more of my previous posts:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...&postcount=104
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...8&postcount=16
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...&postcount=439
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...1&postcount=32
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...0&postcount=32
http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...&postcount=304

Hope that?s a better response to your questions. Used to have a lot of personal info in my profile as well as a picture but took it out for various reasons. If I become active here again I will put it back. In the meantime smc, ila, and Shadows know quite a bit about me.

Where does that leave me now? Well since I?m married I?m not exactly in a position to ?explore? my interest?at least not that way. On the other hand, as ila and others have suggested I can bring a different perspective to some of the discussions here. And of course I will always remain active in supporting LGBT rights?especially things like ?Stopping the Hate.?

Andrew

Yes, much better response.

And after reading a bit about your collage room mate. I lean to him possibly being trans. Maybe not a transsexual, but perhaps a cross-dresser, or as you suggested. He's gay. *shrug*

But thank you very much for your input Andrew.