Liberal free for all coming to an end

[smc]

This speaks volumes ...

[TracyCoxx]

... if this home is so bad probably need to stop fixing other people's homes, and the able bodied people in this home need to get a job.

[TracyCoxx]

So we possibly have some kind of deal where we raise the debt ceiling by up to $2.5 trillion and we cut a matching amount over 10 years.

Whoopty doo.

That won't mean 10 years from now our debt will be back to where it is now at $14.5 trillion. It means we cut up to $2.5 trillion off of the next $8 trillion we're going to add to the debt in 10 years! So this debt cutting deal actually allows $5.5 trillion to be added to the debt in the next 10 years bringing us up to $20 trillion in debt. And they're all patting themselves on their backs for these huge "cuts". We still have a lot of work to do.

And to add $5.5 trillion they're telling us they're going to have to make huge cuts to defense and entitlements.... ???

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

... if this home is so bad probably need to stop fixing other people's homes, and the able bodied people in this home need to get a job.

Typical Tracy Coxx bullshit.

Thank goodness that despite the best efforts of political leaders of all stripes, we still live in a country where there is at least a tiny bit of safety net left to forestall the full effects of the dog-eat-dog, survival-of-the-fittest (i.e., rich exploiters) America that Tracy Coxx advocates.

[franalexes]

Thank goodness that despite the best efforts of political leaders of all stripes, we still live in a country where there is at least a tiny bit of safety net left to forestall the full effects of the dog-eat-dog, survival-of-the-fittest (i.e.,wagon riders) America .

[smc]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Thank goodness that despite the best efforts of political leaders of all stripes, we still live in a country where there is at least a tiny bit of safety net left to forestall the full effects of the dog-eat-dog, survival-of-the-fittest (i.e.,wagon riders) America .

Surely, franalexes has carefully calculated her federal and Maine state taxes and does not accept anything from the government that she does not choose to buy and pay for directly.

[randolph]

Here in Californicatus there is increasing discussion of getting political control back to the local level, control of school and property taxes that were lost with Prop. 13. has left local schools and city and County operations depleted. Sacramento is arguably even mode dysfunctional than Washington.
We are now in the process of redistricting by an independent commission. This may bring back some accountability to Sacramento and kick out some of the entrenched corrupt politicians.

[Suckslut]

I hope the California citizens repeal the Amazon Sales Tax.

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by smc

Surely, franalexes has carefully calculated her federal and Maine state taxes and does not accept anything from the government that she does not choose to buy and pay for directly.

As a matter of fact, that is true. The one thing I have got from the government AND did not choose to buy ( not that one could) is the down-turn in the housing market. My net worth is no longer expressed in seven figures.

[smc]

Originally Posted by franalexes

As a matter of fact, that is true. The one thing I have got from the government AND did not choose to buy ( not that one could) is the down-turn in the housing market. My net worth is no longer expressed in seven figures.

So, you partake of no services offered by the federal government or the State of Maine? You plan on collecting no Social Security? Were you to be in an accident on the Maine Turnpike, you would reject ambulance services or the assistance of the State Police? Etc.?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by smc

This speaks volumes ...

Yep, this is where we are heading. Unfortunately, its not just the Republicans ruining the country, the Democrats and Obama are complicit. Instead of pouring billions into the fuckedup financial industry, the government could have taken over the banks and invested in infrastructure and energy efficiency creating new industries and thousands of jobs and reducing our dependence on foreign oil. Instead we bailed out the rich and preserved their dominance over congress.
Obama didn't betray, us he conned us. He is just another corporate lackey.
The rich have a strangle hold on us and I have no idea how we are going to break their hold. Elections don't work, voting doesn't work, complaining doesn't work. What would work?
Somehow, develop enough support to raise taxes on the rich back where they were before Reagan. The government would then have sufficient funding to sustain the type of society the majority of Americans want.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

...the Democrats and Obama are complicit. Instead of pouring billions into the fuckedup financial industry, the government could have taken over the banks and invested in infrastructure and energy efficiency creating new industries and thousands of jobs and reducing our dependence on foreign oil. Instead we bailed out the rich and preserved their dominance over congress.
Obama didn't betray, us he conned us. He is just another corporate lackey.

Obama really didn't do anything here other than agree to sign this latest compromise. He didn't promote any plan of his own and just made veto threats in all this. Some leader.