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Osama bin Laden is dead
They are stating we have his body as well.
Today is a good day in my opinion. |
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Who is "we"? The United States military? This is an international site; the use of "we" implies that all our members are America, which is not the case.
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Yes, the United States military killed him so are the reports at this time. I'm waiting for Obama to speak.
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I knew the answer to my question. My point was about your use of "we" -- very presumptuous of you. Perhaps not everyone on this site considers what the United States to do to represent their interests. Just sayin' ...
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I undestand your point. I was just a tad to damn happy to hear he was killed.
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^^^^Hey guys lets focaus on the important thing here and thats he's dead and they have the body to prove it,
Every Green Beret who took part deserve a big thankyou Jerseygirl Jen |
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I find it rather nit picky to fuss about how the word "we" was used. It seems to me that the "we" refers to all the people who desire releaf from war and a chance to have a peaceful life. The war on terrorism is not over but justice has been served for all the people killed by Osama bin Laden.
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Monday should be a holiday
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bin Laden was a murderer. Of that, there is no question. I look forward to the day when the United States is compelled, by its citizenry, to abandon the policies around the world that fuel the hatred that makes recruiting to Al-Qaeda so easy. Last edited by smc; 05-02-2011 at 08:55 AM. |
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Yes, Osama was symbolic of our failed imperialistic policies. The people of the Middle East want control of their own destinies. They don't want us or the Taliban or any other "foreign" entity bossing them around and controlling their lives.
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YES!! The best thing to do is to put his head on a pike at Ground Zero, but I understand we have to go through proper political correctness and do a muslim burial at sea. Let's just hope they at least chose shark invested waters.
And I do thank Obama for keeping up the fight
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I am very pleased Obama chose to go in with Navy Seals rather than blow up the estate from a predator drone. We know for certain who was killed. It will be interesting to know how the Seals did it in view of the extensive security at the estate.
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As Stalin said of Hitler, "So the bastard's dead? Too bad we didn't capture him alive!"
Hiding behind a woman. Why am I not surprised? First, the so-called "hero" flees at Tora Bora, then uses a human shield in his final moments. Just call him Osama ar-Jabaan?"The Cowardly." Good riddance. Last edited by St. Araqiel; 05-02-2011 at 06:17 PM. |
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Obama got re-elected? What?
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left off someone else will carry on, I don't think it's over yet. He was one of many. |
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I think, perhaps, if we end the war in Afghanistan but keep a base there, and call the war on terror over then this just might be a point in time when radical muslims might think twice about getting into the fight and go play scrabble or something. And I'm not suggesting that we stop looking for Zawahiri and other high value targets or let our guard down wrt Al Qaeda because they, and others like them will always be there. Officially the war can be over. Unofficially we can keep going after these guys. But if not now, then when should we declare victory and end the war? As you said, there will always be another one out there to resume the fight. It's time for the world to attempt to move on.
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This is very true.
What people in underdeveloped countries wants more than anything is economic development, and a better future. Democracy, as we in the west preach about is not necessarily that important to them, they want less corruption, and economic prosperity more than anything. Quote:
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About damn time, they should've made him walk the plank before he died
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No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? WTF???!!
I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?
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him. But then again I usually don't take anything B.O. said face value. Just remember, those pictures can come from anywere. Last edited by parr; 05-05-2011 at 04:07 AM. |
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But these posts above are a great example of why there is a continuing call for someone, anyone, on Tracy Coxx's ideological side to start acting like an adult. |
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I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. Bin Laden could easily release another video with him and showing current news papers to show that he's still alive.
I'm just illustrating the impression people around the world are going to have with the way Obama handled it. They kill the worlds most wanted terrorist and dump him in the sea somewhere within hours and hide any photographic evidence that it ever happened. Why? Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop. Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.
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Now Tracy Coxx tries to pull back from throwing a bomb by trying to rationalize an incendiary remark. This is the kind of immature political crap that makes the call for adult behavior so compelling. I think my point's been made. Post away. I'll say no more on this particular sub-topic of the thread, unless falsehoods are posted that need to be corrected. |
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While I tend to be on the conservative side with Tracy he is wrong. ( in my opinion)
The American soldier is efficient. They kill without mercy. I don't give a rat's ass if Usama didn't get a proper funeral or if he got shot with out him having a gun, or if they failed to read Miranda rights, or if they threw him into the ocean naked. I just don't give a s***. No more than Usama cared about the people that died in New York. The pictures probably are so extreem they would inflame a muslim sect that we don't need to inflame. Now, we got #1. Let's move on to #2. The war against terror is not over. There are people out there that want to kill you just because you are alive. Nothing else is important to them, so don't think any negotiations are possible. "WE" ( those of us who are alive and engaged in this fight either personally or through our government actions ) got the son-of-a-bitch! I don't care how he died, who shot him, how the body was dispossed of, or who takes credit. People who want to see pictures couldn't tell if they were fake pictures or real so why bother? There are those that will always claim the truth is the un-truth. Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off. |
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If Bush had done in Bin Laden this would you have questioned his motives for withholding the photos?
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Shooting Bin Laden was the correct alternative to keeping him alive.
Dumping him in the ocean was correct even if they didn't get the details EXACTLY right.( I don't care) The photos are most probably gruesome. I have never seen anything of Bin Laden except photos so how would I know anything else, true or false? If there is anything to finish this, I think I'll go pee in the ocean. ( Pee on his grave) let's spend our thoughts on those that died in New York and elsewhere that did not get fair warning, Did not get a trial, did not get to have a body to bury, did not get to say goodbye, These are the people that deserve world recognition. |
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[QUOTE=franalexes;183825The pictures probably are so extreem they would inflame a muslim sect that we don't need to inflame. Now, we got #1. Let's move on to #2. The war against terror is not over. There are people out there that want to kill you just because you are alive. Nothing else is important to them, so don't think any negotiations are possible.[/QUOTE]
You're right, negotiations are not possible. But I don't think we should go out of our way so as not to offend anyone on how this mass murderer of muslims and non-muslims is disposed of. Some cultures need to understand that not everyone agrees with them. And that's ok!
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I think it was crucial for us to get rid of the body. If his followers had got hold of it all hell would have broken loose. He would have been paraded all over the Middle east as a martyr. Rather than the ocean, a pool of lava in a volcano would have been a good choice.
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You consistently post deliberately provocative and incendiary things, like a troll would do on any Internet site, and then when someone challenges the troll-like behavior you take umbrage. If someone wants to be treated as an adult, one must act that way. In political discourse, seriousness is the hallmark of mature behavior. Last edited by smc; 05-05-2011 at 01:59 PM. |
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Then there's the backtracking: Tracy Coxx doesn't really believe they didn't get bin Laden. Then there is the allegation that the visit to Ground Zero is a campaign stop. Finally, there is the obligatory mention of Bush, including the statement that Tracy Coxx would have been just as pissed had Bush not released the photos. With the rapid-fire accusations and backtracking, it may be difficult to keep track of the recurring theme. What Obama does that Bush did is never the same. Yes, the trip to Ground Zero is a campaign stop. Yes, Bush continually made campaign-like spectacles during his administration against the backdrop of milestones in the "war on terror" (remember "Mission Accomplished"?) It's hard to take seriously what someone writes when it seems to be all for theater, and meant -- as franalexes so aptly noted -- controversy designed to piss off, not to advance a discussion. |
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A Navy Seal seems to have hit a target.
In a political forum, the best way to avoid being a target is not to re-act to being hit. Secondary of course is to not jump out of the foxhole everytime someone posts. Now guys, keep it in perspective. I seriously doubt anyone making public policy is reading this forum. Last edited by franalexes; 05-05-2011 at 09:54 PM. |
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Al Qaeda confirms that Bin Laden is dead. And now they vow to retaliate. Fine. We'll file that in the round file with their other 423 threats of retaliation.
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A new era seems to be unfolding in the Middle East. The insane religious jihadists are becoming irrelevant. Young people throughout the Middle East know how to use their cell phones and the internet to organize and bring down corrupt authoritarian governments. They don't need jihad, their energy is far more effective than jihad ever was.
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For many years after WWII the Soviet Union was presented to us as the ultimate evil. The collapse of the USSR left a gap in our world view that was filled by Bin Laden, a man determined to destroy us and our way of life. Who or what will replace him as the new threat? We will have to wait and see what the neocons come up with next, to keep us scared and easy to manipulate and willing to spend umteen billions on military activities.
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But the good news is we do not have to take down countries anymore to get them. The rest is a mop-up operation. But despite them, the biggest threat to the country right now is not military.
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80 Dead in Bin Laden Revenge Attack
Taliban bombers kill at least 80 at a paramilitary training center in Pakistan, claiming the attack is the 'first revenge' for the U.S. raid that killed Usama bin Laden. To quote Captain Kirk: Quote:
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The Taliban attacked recruits leaving a paramilitary training center. If Pakistan's military is helping Al Qaeda, then the Taliban is helping the US.
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The Pakistani military is, by all less-than-facile analyses, is not a monolith. Many of its officers were trained in the West, just like officers in the Egyptian armed forces, and thus often have somewhat dual value systems. The analyses by most of the foreign policy institutes in Washington suggest that the rank-and-file soldiers in the Pakistani military are more likely to have Taliban/Al Qaeda sympathies than officers, although there is nothing absolute about that. Most important is to draw a clear distinction between the Pakistani military and the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence agency. It is with the latter that the bigger problem for U.S. interests lies. |
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So why do they attack Pakistani military recruits? Why has Al Qaeda killed at least as many muslims as Americans. Intelligence isn't one of their strong points.
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