Osama bin Laden is dead

[TracyCoxx]

No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? WTF???!!

I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?

[parr]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? WTF???!!

I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?

More smoking mirrors perhaps. I think they shot somebody that looks like
him. But then again I usually don't take anything B.O. said face value. Just
remember, those pictures can come from anywere.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

And I do thank Obama for keeping up the fight

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? ... I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?

I am no Obama supporter.

But these posts above are a great example of why there is a continuing call for someone, anyone, on Tracy Coxx's ideological side to start acting like an adult.

[TracyCoxx]

I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. Bin Laden could easily release another video with him and showing current news papers to show that he's still alive.

I'm just illustrating the impression people around the world are going to have with the way Obama handled it. They kill the worlds most wanted terrorist and dump him in the sea somewhere within hours and hide any photographic evidence that it ever happened. Why? Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop.

Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. Bin Laden could easily release another video with him and showing current news papers to show that he's still alive.

I'm just illustrating the impression people around the world are going to have with the way Obama handled it. They kill the worlds most wanted terrorist and dump him in the sea somewhere within hours and hide any photographic evidence that it ever happened. Why? Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop.

Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.

Tracy Coxx wrote: "I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?" Note the use of the word FAKES.

Now Tracy Coxx tries to pull back from throwing a bomb by trying to rationalize an incendiary remark. This is the kind of immature political crap that makes the call for adult behavior so compelling.

I think my point's been made. Post away. I'll say no more on this particular sub-topic of the thread, unless falsehoods are posted that need to be corrected.

[franalexes]

While I tend to be on the conservative side with Tracy he is wrong. ( in my opinion)
The American soldier is efficient. They kill without mercy. I don't give a rat's ass if Usama didn't get a proper funeral or if he got shot with out him having a gun, or if they failed to read Miranda rights, or if they threw him into the ocean naked. I just don't give a s***.
No more than Usama cared about the people that died in New York. The pictures probably are so extreem they would inflame a muslim sect that we don't need to inflame. Now, we got #1. Let's move on to #2. The war against terror is not over. There are people out there that want to kill you just because you are alive. Nothing else is important to them, so don't think any negotiations are possible. "WE" ( those of us who are alive and engaged in this fight either personally or through our government actions ) got the son-of-a-bitch! I don't care how he died, who shot him, how the body was dispossed of, or who takes credit. People who want to see pictures couldn't tell if they were fake pictures or real so why bother? There are those that will always claim the truth is the un-truth.

Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off.

[TracyCoxx]

[QUOTE=franalexes;183825The pictures probably are so extreem they would inflame a muslim sect that we don't need to inflame. Now, we got #1. Let's move on to #2. The war against terror is not over. There are people out there that want to kill you just because you are alive. Nothing else is important to them, so don't think any negotiations are possible.[/QUOTE]

You're right, negotiations are not possible. But I don't think we should go out of our way so as not to offend anyone on how this mass murderer of muslims and non-muslims is disposed of. Some cultures need to understand that not everyone agrees with them. And that's ok!

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

You're right, negotiations are not possible. But I don't think we should go out of our way so as not to offend anyone on how this mass murderer of muslims and non-muslims is disposed of. Some cultures need to understand that not everyone agrees with them. And that's ok!

On that I agree. I think the funeral part was more for our own ( whatever) than his. I wouldn't have taken 45 minutes but I don't care.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

Tracy Coxx wrote: "I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?" Note the use of the word FAKES.

Now Tracy Coxx tries to pull back from throwing a bomb by trying to rationalize an incendiary remark. This is the kind of immature political crap that makes the call for adult behavior so compelling.

I think my point's been made.

Please do not put down other users. I will try and do better with my adult behavior, but it's hard since so many people on here stray from adhering to serious mature discussion on this forum. It makes it confusing since you do not reprimand them as well. Perhaps if you could add some forum rules that would make it clearer what this adult behavior is that you expect?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Please do not put down other users. I will try and do better with my adult behavior, but it's hard since so many people on here stray from adhering to serious mature discussion on this forum. It makes it confusing since you do not reprimand them as well. Perhaps if you could add some forum rules that would make it clearer what this adult behavior is that you expect?

Bravo to franalexes for stating what should be obvious: "Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off."

You consistently post deliberately provocative and incendiary things, like a troll would do on any Internet site, and then when someone challenges the troll-like behavior you take umbrage. If someone wants to be treated as an adult, one must act that way. In political discourse, seriousness is the hallmark of mature behavior.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

Bravo to franalexes for stating what should be obvious: "Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off."

You consistently post deliberately provocative and incendiary things, like a troll would do on any Internet site, and then when someone challenges the troll-like behavior you take umbrage. If someone wants to be treated as an adult, one must act that way. In political discourse, seriousness is the hallmark of mature behavior.

You're stealing my thunder smc. I should have been the one to judge Tracy as troll.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? WTF???!!

I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?

Come on Tracy, it's obvious why he doesn't want to release a photo of Bin Laden with part of his head blown off and his brain exposed. His supporters would go insane.
If Bush had done in Bin Laden this would you have questioned his motives for withholding the photos?

[franalexes]

Shooting Bin Laden was the correct alternative to keeping him alive.
Dumping him in the ocean was correct even if they didn't get the details EXACTLY right.( I don't care)
The photos are most probably gruesome. I have never seen anything of Bin Laden except photos so how would I know anything else, true or false?
If there is anything to finish this, I think I'll go pee in the ocean. ( Pee on his grave)
let's spend our thoughts on those that died in New York and elsewhere that did not get fair warning, Did not get a trial, did not get to have a body to bury, did not get to say goodbye,
These are the people that deserve world recognition.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Come on Tracy, it's obvious why he doesn't want to release a photo of Bin Laden with part of his head blown off and his brain exposed. His supporters would go insane.
If Bush had done in Bin Laden this would you have questioned his motives for withholding the photos?

I'm not questioning Obama's motives for not releasing the photos. I believe it's exactly as you said. But I'm sure there's at least one photo that doesn't highlight his thalamus. Or they can be cropped appropriately. If Bush hadn't released the photos I would be just as pissed. His number one stated goal at the beginning of this war was to get Bin Laden. And for him to just to make Bin Laden disappear without a trace would seem pretty fishy. I'm not saying it's fishy that BO did it, he's just way overly sensitive of Muslims. But it would be fishy for Bush to do so.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? ... I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. ...

... Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop.

Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I'm not questioning Obama's motives for not releasing the photos. I believe it's exactly as you said. But I'm sure there's at least one photo that doesn't highlight his thalamus. Or they can be cropped appropriately. If Bush hadn't released the photos I would be just as pissed. His number one stated goal at the beginning of this war was to get Bin Laden. And for him to just to make Bin Laden disappear without a trace would seem pretty fishy. I'm not saying it's fishy that BO did it, he's just way overly sensitive of Muslims. But it would be fishy for Bush to do so.

First there is the allegation that the pictures would be fake.

Then there's the backtracking: Tracy Coxx doesn't really believe they didn't get bin Laden.

Then there is the allegation that the visit to Ground Zero is a campaign stop.

Finally, there is the obligatory mention of Bush, including the statement that Tracy Coxx would have been just as pissed had Bush not released the photos.

With the rapid-fire accusations and backtracking, it may be difficult to keep track of the recurring theme. What Obama does that Bush did is never the same. Yes, the trip to Ground Zero is a campaign stop. Yes, Bush continually made campaign-like spectacles during his administration against the backdrop of milestones in the "war on terror" (remember "Mission Accomplished"?)

It's hard to take seriously what someone writes when it seems to be all for theater, and meant -- as franalexes so aptly noted -- controversy designed to piss off, not to advance a discussion.

[franalexes]

A Navy Seal seems to have hit a target.

In a political forum, the best way to avoid being a target is not to re-act to being hit. Secondary of course is to not jump out of the foxhole everytime someone posts.

Now guys, keep it in perspective. I seriously doubt anyone making public policy is reading this forum.

[smc]

Originally Posted by franalexes

A Navy Seal seems to have hit a target.

In a political forum, the best way to avoid being a target is not to re-act to being hit. Secondary of course is to not jump out of the foxhole everytime someone posts.

Now guys, keep it in perspective. I seriously doubt anyone making public policy is reading this forum.

"Keep it in perspective" -- well, here's mine. Anyone who posts is subject to rebuttal. Some people are afraid of being targets; others are not. Some people don't mind there ideas and posts being scruitinized; others whine when it happens. We are all part of the polity, whether we officially make policy or not. Oh, and trolling is trolling, whether it is excused by anyone or not.

[TracyCoxx]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/we...-2011/face-off

[TracyCoxx]

Al Qaeda confirms that Bin Laden is dead. And now they vow to retaliate. Fine. We'll file that in the round file with their other 423 threats of retaliation.