Liberal free for all coming to an end

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Proof? With the grass roots movement that's going on, I don't see why republicans would need to resort to foreign funding sources. Do you have evidence that this is anything more than dems flinging mud to see what sticks?

Oh boy lol. I think your biased media likes to set up Sarah Palin as the voice of republicans, but she's not.


I've got one for you that's even worse. And what's more is it's true:
Tim Geithner, BO's secretary of treasury, allowed Steven Friedman to oversee Goldman Sachs. Who's Friedman? Former chairman of Goldman Sachs and was on the board of directors. Geithner OK'd this conflict of interest. Geithner also allows Friedman to keep his 52000 shares of Goldman Sachs stock while he oversees Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs stock rose from $78/share to $167 per share during the first year of Obama's administration.

The lobbyist for Goldman Sachs is Michael Pease. He joined the director of government affairs. They hired him because their previous lobbyist, Mark Patterson, has been named the chief of staff for Timothy Geithner. Michael Pease is now in Barney Frank's office.

The reality of democrat political and business practices is far worse than anything moveon can make up about republicans.

Yes, the situation with the investment banks is appalling. Those bastards should be in jail, instead its business as usual. The Bush administration started pouring money over these banks and the Obama admin. has continued it. Could the economy have been saved by doing something else? What would have happened if these banks had not been bailed out and the ringleaders sent to jail?
Do you have an answer, Tracy?

[randolph]

I lost faith in Obama when he appointed the chief pesticide lobbyist as our agricultural representative in foreign affairs. Michell's "organic" garden is just window dressing for the public.
We knew when Bush was elected that we would be screwed, we thought Obama would at least take us out to dinner before screwing us, such is not the case.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

We knew when Bush was elected that we would be screwed, we thought Obama would at least take us out to dinner before screwing us, such is not the case.

Obama didn't waste any time. He pulled a shock awe campaign on America as soon as he took office.

But don't say you weren't warned

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yes, the situation with the investment banks is appalling. Those bastards should be in jail, instead its business as usual. The Bush administration started pouring money over these banks and the Obama admin. has continued it. Could the economy have been saved by doing something else? What would have happened if these banks had not been bailed out and the ringleaders sent to jail?
Do you have an answer, Tracy?

My answer would be to listen to Ron Paul:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ul-bailou.html

BO misplaced the blame so the real problem isn't really going to be fixed and what's more, he hasn't done anything to prevent it from happening again.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

My answer would be to listen to Ron Paul:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ul-bailou.html

BO misplaced the blame so the real problem isn't really going to be fixed and what's more, he hasn't done anything to prevent it from happening again.

Yeah, I would have to go along with most of what Ron Paul has to say about the bail out. However, the so called free market capitalism he refers to is unstable without some regulation. Many of the regulations instituted by FDR worked well for many years until they were diluted or removed during the last thirty years. The lack of restraint allowed the economy of overheat and collapse.
The electronic age has revolutionized financial markets. Trading can be done on a split second basis and computer models can monitor trends instantly. Without controls, the computers could destroy the marker in seconds. The small investor can be wiped out before he can pick up the phone. The old style ideas about a "free" market are obsolete. Like it or not, there needs to be regulation.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yeah, I would have to go along with most of what Ron Paul has to say about the bail out. However, the so called free market capitalism he refers to is unstable without some regulation. Many of the regulations instituted by FDR worked well for many years until they were diluted or removed during the last thirty years. The lack of restraint allowed the economy of overheat and collapse.
The electronic age has revolutionized financial markets. Trading can be done on a split second basis and computer models can monitor trends instantly. Without controls, the computers could destroy the marker in seconds. The small investor can be wiped out before he can pick up the phone. The old style ideas about a "free" market are obsolete. Like it or not, there needs to be regulation.

FDR's policies hurt people more than they helped and we are still feeling the effects of it today.

I agree that there needs to be regulations but not like the kind we have now. The gov. should be acting as a referee and setting a fair playing ground, not determining the outcome for everyone.

[TracyCoxx]

It's happening more and more with each election. The republicans have to not only get enough votes to win, but get enough votes to overcome all the cheating that goes on with the democrats. Illegals are voting more often, Acorn is still around under different names signing up ineligable people to vote, Black Panthers are intimidating voters, and now it seems even voting machines are rigged. People have signed in to voting machines in Nevada only to find Harry Ried's name is already checked. How desperate is this guy?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

It's happening more and more with each election. The republicans have to not only get enough votes to win, but get enough votes to overcome all the cheating that goes on with the democrats. Illegals are voting more often, Acorn is still around under different names signing up ineligable people to vote, Black Panthers are intimidating voters, and now it seems even voting machines are rigged. People have signed in to voting machines in Nevada only to find Harry Ried's name is already checked. How desperate is this guy?

I don't support the Democrats or Republicans, but members should know that the Black Panther allegation here has been shown conclusively to be a hoax. It's amazing what fear of the new will do to people's minds.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

I don't support the Democrats or Republicans, but members should know that the Black Panther allegation here has been shown conclusively to be a hoax. It's amazing what fear of the new will do to people's minds.

Oh that's good. So what did all that turn out to be?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

It's happening more and more with each election. The republicans have to not only get enough votes to win, but get enough votes to overcome all the cheating that goes on with the democrats. Illegals are voting more often, Acorn is still around under different names signing up ineligable people to vote, Black Panthers are intimidating voters, and now it seems even voting machines are rigged. People have signed in to voting machines in Nevada only to find Harry Ried's name is already checked. How desperate is this guy?

Oh My! The poor Republicans always abused by nasty Democrats and their evil buddies. We all know that Republicans always run fair honest campaigns, don't we?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Oh My! The poor Republicans always abused by nasty Democrats and their evil buddies. We all know that Republicans always run fair honest campaigns, don't we?

Of course. See even Randolph agrees!