Republicans

[GRH]

I for one consider myself an independent, but I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disregard topics which devolve to calling people by shallow nicknames such as "Cons," "Pubs," "Dems," "Mods," etc, etc, etc. If a topic can't bother to name the variety by which I might find myself labeled (without resorting to base labeling), that topic doesn't deserve my input.

[smc]

Originally Posted by GRH

I for one consider myself an independent, but I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disregard topics which devolve to calling people by shallow nicknames such as "Cons," "Pubs," "Dems," "Mods," etc, etc, etc. If a topic can't bother to name the variety by which I might find myself labeled (without resorting to base labeling), that topic doesn't deserve my input.

Thank you for this post, from the bottom of my heart!!!

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by GRH

I for one consider myself an independent, but I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disregard topics which devolve to calling people by shallow nicknames such as "Cons," "Pubs," "Dems," "Mods," etc, etc, etc. If a topic can't bother to name the variety by which I might find myself labeled (without resorting to base labeling), that topic doesn't deserve my input.

GRH:

You and SMC consider abrevs. to be shallow. They are not insults or nicknames, but abbreviations. It is not base labeling IMHO. Is t-girl base labeling too? I do that, does that make me shallow?


TAL

[smc]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

GRH:

You and SMC consider abrevs. to be shallow. They are not insults or nicknames, but abbreviations. It is not base labeling IMHO. Is t-girl base labeling too? I do that, does that make me shallow?

TAL

It really is too bad that you weren't born in ancient Greece, Tal, because -- and I mean this with the utmost respect -- you could have been a master among the Sophists.

Many t-girls call themselves that, whereas I defy you to find a single conservative republican that calls herself or himself by the abbreviation you use. The beauty of what GRH wrote is that it reflects how GRH responds to your use (potential or real) of one of your abbreviations to describe GRH.

Shallow or not, I'm just sayin' ...

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by smc

It really is too bad that you weren't born in ancient Greece, Tal, because -- and I mean this with the utmost respect -- you could have been a master among the Sophists.

Many t-girls call themselves that, whereas I defy you to find a single conservative republican that calls herself or himself by the abbreviation you use. Shallow or not, I'm just sayin' ...

SMC:

I do that as I've said. I never said others do it.

I call very-right-leaning political posters Conse 'Pubs until they state otherwise. I've been called a Lib by Conse 'Pubs, Neo-Cons and Libertarians, and then called a liar when I said I'm a Mod Dem. So, I'm a liar on the receiving end, and narrow-minded on the other end. I do post on a local political board, and I learned that calling someone a 'Pub gets you no answer to your question with an I'm-a-conservative blast to the face. If you say they're a conservative, no republican is accountable by them, and the talkers are entertainers only. The strategy is that the attacker can be on offense 100% of the time. Sorry, but these individuals want to crush any opposing opinion, while passing out insults to anyone who dares to have an offending opinion.

TAL

[smc]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

SMC:

I do that as I've said. I never said others do it.

I call very-right-leaning political posters Conse 'Pubs until they state otherwise. I've been called a Lib by Conse 'Pubs, Neo-Cons and Libertarians, and then called a liar when I said I'm a Mod Dem. So, I'm a liar on the receiving end, and narrow-minded on the other end. I do post on a local political board, and I learned that calling someone a 'Pub gets you no answer to your question with an I'm-a-conservative blast to the face. If you say they're a conservative, no republican is accountable by them, and the talkers are entertainers only. The strategy is that the attacker can be on offense 100% of the time. Sorry, but these individuals want to crush any opposing opinion, while passing out insults to anyone who dares to have an offending opinion.

TAL

None of my comments on this nickname / abbreviation / shorthhand business have anything to do with the politics of the individuals or groups in question. It's a simple matter. If I were a Trotskyist (and perhaps I am ), someone calling me a "Trot" would tell me two things: 1) they are using a denigrating term to diminish the value of my position, and 2) they have no real interest in discussing real politics, real issues.

It seems to me that if you are posting on a board and you have to find the right name to give people in order to discuss with them, it is a colossal waste of time. Serious people have serious discussions. Others are just doing the un-fun kind of masturbating.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by smc

None of my comments on this nickname / abbreviation / shorthhand business have anything to do with the politics of the individuals or groups in question. It's a simple matter. If I were a Trotskyist (and perhaps I am ), someone calling me a "Trot" would tell me two things: 1) they are using a denigrating term to diminish the value of my position, and 2) they have no real interest in discussing real politics, real issues.

It seems to me that if you are posting on a board and you have to find the right name to give people in order to discuss with them, it is a colossal waste of time. Serious people have serious discussions. Others are just doing the un-fun kind of masturbating.

SMC:

The abbrevs. are not uncommon in political debate.

Your only interest is in provoking me, and I'll take it that your denial is in order.

This is not a debate between you and me; it's you using debate as a shield for your provocation. If you want to continue this charade, be my guest. I'll cut and paste and use other shortcuts to waste as little time as possible on this.

TAL

[smc]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

SMC:

The abbrevs. are not uncommon in political debate.

Your only interest is in provoking me, and I'll take it that your denial is in order.

This is not a debate between you and me; it's you using debate as a shield for your provocation. If you want to continue this charade, be my guest. I'll cut and paste and use other shortcuts to waste as little time as possible on this.

TAL

Two funny things:

1. Just because someone makes a claim doesn't make that claim the truth. You don't know me, and you know very little about me. So don't presume that your claim that my only interest is in provoking you is true, just because you make the claim.

2. A Google search of "conse pub" yielded 3 hits: two of your posts on a Philly-related blog, and one post on Trans Ladyboy Forum. So while abbrevs. may be common in political debate that one is not. And that is my entire point -- the point you continue to ignore.

What I've been writing has been about the use of language -- something I know a thing or two about, and that I've spent my entire adult life researching and teaching. And I will continue to contend that your use of some abbreviations is a provocation, just like the one of which you accuse me.