Coakley Is Out--brown Wins

[jimnaseum]

Hmm, sounds like I hit a nerve!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Hmm, sounds like I hit a nerve!

Or you were mistaken, one of the two.

[randolph]

Everybody has their own reality. Conservatives have their reality. Liberals have their reality. As humans we naturally gravitate to groups and news that matches our reality. For example, almost 50% of the people in the country watch Fox news and believe it is reliable and honest. Fox News fits their perception of reality therefore it is reliable and honest. The facts are otherwise, Fox News obviously caters to the conservatives in the country. They say what conservatives want to here. The same is true of liberal media. I listen to PBS's Bill Moyer's. I believe what he says and think he is a really good guy, that's my reality. Perhaps we are genetically endowed to "fit" into certain political/ideological categories. Tracy and I are poles apart politically but we both love this country. That's the way its always been since the first George.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Everybody has their own reality. Conservatives have their reality. Liberals have their reality. As humans we naturally gravitate to groups and news that matches our reality. For example, almost 50% of the people in the country watch Fox news and believe it is reliable and honest. Fox News fits their perception of reality therefore it is reliable and honest. The facts are otherwise, Fox News obviously caters to the conservatives in the country. They say what conservatives want to here. The same is true of liberal media. I listen to PBS's Bill Moyer's. I believe what he says and think he is a really good guy, that's my reality. Perhaps we are genetically endowed to "fit" into certain political/ideological categories. Tracy and I are poles apart politically but we both love this country. That's the way its always been since the first George.

Yes. Both parties and sides obviously cater their "respective" groups. The problem is when people focus on the whole "this vs. that" instead of what each side is proposing. If people took the time to look at a problem objectively and not what "feels good" and actually look at what both parties propose (expanse of government powers, diminishing individual liberties) they would be actually disgusted with what is going on.



"All those who offer an opinion on any doubtful point should first clear their minds of every sentiment of dislike, friendship, anger or pity."-Sallust

"What is ominous is the ease with which some people go from saying that they don't like something to saying that the government should forbid it. When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long."-Thomas Sowell

“One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them”-Thomas Sowell

“If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves”-Thomas Sowell

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus

[jimnaseum]

Truth is free, power costs money. If the house and senate had to vote on what color purple is, the results would be divided along party lines. Reddish blue or bluish red.
If a reliable voice-stress lie-detector were ever invented, you'd find out all our leaders are lying, and all the people know nothing. How could they?

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Truth is free, power costs money. If the house and senate had to vote on what color purple is, the results would be divided along party lines. Reddish blue or bluish red.
If a reliable voice-stress lie-detector were ever invented, you'd find out all our leaders are lying, and all the people know nothing. How could they?

JIM:

The first liar was the first pharaoh.


TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Brown's win forced a complete rewrite of TMF's speech. Instead of health care he's forced to listen to what the people want - Jobs. So he'll talk about jobs tonight, not because he wants to. Because he has to. And because he failed at his promise of creating jobs by last February so the issue is still here.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by randolph

Everybody has their own reality. Conservatives have their reality. Liberals have their reality. As humans we naturally gravitate to groups and news that matches our reality. For example, almost 50% of the people in the country watch Fox news and believe it is reliable and honest. Fox News fits their perception of reality therefore it is reliable and honest. The facts are otherwise, Fox News obviously caters to the conservatives in the country. They say what conservatives want to here. The same is true of liberal media. I listen to PBS's Bill Moyer's. I believe what he says and think he is a really good guy, that's my reality. Perhaps we are genetically endowed to "fit" into certain political/ideological categories. Tracy and I are poles apart politically but we both love this country. That's the way its always been since the first George.

RANDY:

My gripe isn't with perception based on ideology; it's that there are 2 types of debate: honest and political. Political debate is what allows Conse 'Pubs to say: It's only my opinion that Obama is an American, and others don't feel that way.

Then there is the wordplay trickery. Chicago pols are crooks and Obama is from Chicago, which proves Obama is a crook. Bill Ayers was a terrorist and Obama met Ayers, which prove Obama is a terrorist. Guilt by association, guilt by geography. Of course, it is worded to look like something else.

TAL