Coakley Is Out--brown Wins
 

So far 52-47 she has called Scott Brown and conceded. Now watch what the Obama regime comes up with.

Just when things were looking good. Now this! I don't know whats worse -- the result or the self righteous gloating of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. Jon Stewart don't fail the US now!

Yeah, it really sucks when the American people finally get their say after a year of being shut out of backroom deals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ

TRACY:

Where are you from? UK?


TAL

Nope, USA.

Sometimes change isn't a good thing.

Then
"Ask not what your country can do for you"
"Ask what you can do for your country"

Now
"We can keep screwing the American people because we control their pathetic government"

No, the dems don't have a super majority anymore.

God, Guts, and Guns.

As opposed to the decades where 50 million people have been shut out of proper medical care? Puhleeze!

Liberal Dems Have Had Thier Warning
 

I get the funny feeling that you are a flaming liberal that approves of what Obama and the Liberal Dems have done for the last year. Neber has a party done so many back room deal and blatantly come right out and tell us to go fuck ourselves. I was listening to a dem senator last night that said being held in Washington for the last 20 weekends and not being able to go home and listen to our people was a huge mistake.

I really think that you should relisten to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ

This is only January and look at the changes. Stay tuned............

So make health insurance more affordable. How bout Tort reform? No?? Why is that off the table? You're not going to have proper medical health care if you hand the operation over to the government. Do you know of anything the government has managed well? This is not something you just go change without taking a damn good look at it. Because it cannot be undone.

Understand this. No matter what form health care takes, there will be at least 50 million people who are unhappy with it. If we have to use the health care the dems want to force on us then the 85% of the people who are currently happy with health care will be pissed.

You mean like this?

Or this....

EAT THIS!!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

This is where the hyperbole makes me role my eyes. Having lived and worked in 3 countries and continents where public health-care is the norm, the McCarthy era tactics coupled with "Reefer Madness" hystria is laughable. NO system is perfect, but the experience I've had in Australia, England and Canada has been the same -- walk in, see a doctor, get treated and leave. When I needed specialists I saw them. It's that simple.

All it takes is money. And guess what? Right now we're in the hole $12 trillion. As I said, the first place to start is by cutting costs, like tort reform.

When republicans see a deficit, they cut costs. When democrats see a deficit they raise taxes and add costs.

Yeah! And who will lead us in these tough times? How about....Ken and Barbie!!!!!!

well i hope our ruler in the white house sees hes a 1 term idiot

time to take america back

He's too much of an idiot--he thinks that Brown and Him got elected for the same reasons--that people wanted change from the last 8 years. WRONG WRONG WRONG YOU IDIOT People are sick of Obama and all the idiot liberals and the closed doors.

Say What?
 

TRACY:

Good point!! Bush 41 left a deficit for Clinton, Clinton left a surplus for Bush 43, Bush 43 left a whopping deficit for Obama.

Conse 'Pubs put us in a hole with tax cuts, and The Dems have to pay the bill. Then, Conse 'Pubs say we cut taxes, and Dems raise taxes. Will that Conse 'Pub vote be cash or charge? AHHHHHHHHH!!!!


TAL, a Mod Dem--left of center

CCC:

You didn't say why Obama got elected?


TAL, a Mod Dem

Republican tranny chasers make me laugh...

What an awesome party you support:

http://michiganmessenger.com/33506/p...etary-of-state

Hypocracy
 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
 

BIONCA:

Those are the ones in the corner of their closets: like that Craig guy, that coked-out preacher with a male prostitute, like that congressman with DC pages, and that GOP.com gay reporter at The WH.

Piece,

TAL

BIONCA:

Maybe, they're the only straight guys here? What say you?


Piece,


TAL

Hey, everyone, just a general reminder: you can insult the politicians all you want (so long as no inappropriate racial language is used), but not other members of the forum. And by "insult" I mean inappropriate name-calling. You're all adults, so I don't think you need more of an explanation than that. Just please, give us moderators a break and keep your posts to the issues when responding to others' posts.

BIONCA:

Do you think they're from the south?


Piece,


TAL

where were any people in america shut out?
the last time i look theres a law that ers cant refuse treatment!
if you have proof please provide it as the democrat line is bs

Drs have an oath, not a law. They can (and do) break it if they can get away with it. Google Tyra Hunter.

I'll not bait the connies here, and won't imply being gay is an insult by dragging Mr Haggard, Craig, and Gannon (?) into this.

For the record, I'm not overly fond of the Dems, and I think they threw this race by running the worst candidate with a shady history. If they don't have the magic 60 in the Senate, they can blame the Republicans for stalling on the things they promised (and had no intention of moving on). The Dems are cowards and have been moving more and more right since I started voting.

I'll give the Republicans credit in holding to their base and playing on their fears of teh commiez and teh kweerz... and actually giving them results with regressive laws, pointless social legislation, and culture war of their own making and perpetuation.

the ers cant refuse treatment
and thats the bottom line

Yeah right, Bush cut taxes and spent like crazy. Going from a surplus to a big deficit. :frown:

Tyra Hunter refused treatment by an EMT in DC because she was a pre-op trans woman after a car accident. She was further refused treatment by the Drs in the ER. - She died due to lack of care.

Insurance in the US does not have to cover transition related care, so they largely expressly exclude such care. This extends to covering anything even remotely related to transition. If I get breast cancer.. guess who doesn't have to pay - and guess who won't pay because they don't have to.

Trans people are regularly shut out of basic medical care either because Drs view them as far to exotic to treat, mis-diagnose their problems as the results of hormone treatment, or because they can't afford the treatments.

I doubt that. They've been pushing this since last summer and all this time until now they've had a super majority. The dems couldn't even get their own party to accept that trash. And the country certainly didn't want it.

News flash: Bush isn't a textbook conservative. And it was while congress was controlled by Dems under Bush that they spent the most.

Complete this sentence: If Bush spent like crazy, Obama spent like _____

BIONCA:

The Connies? As in Connie Mack? Or as in Connie Chung? LOL!!

This is not an insult, but the ones that hide behind conservative republican values are in a doorless closet.


Piece,


TAL

Oh, I see. The deficit under Bush was not his fault but the deficit under Obama is his fault. :innocent:

(sigh) The people who are shut out are the ones who can't afford or put off preventative visits that are NOT emergencies but often lead to one. Treatable infections, heart murmurs, type one diabetes, hypertension... where shall I stop? Or how about the people who opt for the treatment they can afford which is second rate at best and at it's worst is ineffective and leads to an early death. The proof is not in the ER -- it's in a neighborhood near you.

LOCAL:

Nice try! But to Conse 'Pubs those people are only talking points and/or lies, and not a reality, because if they were real it would injure their POV.

It's seeing with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.


TAL

This has been posted a few times, but here it is yet again:
Bush with mixed congress: $11B deficit
Bush with republican congress: $339B deficit
Bush with democrat congress: $704B deficit

Obama with democrat congress: $2.7 Trillion deficit

I'm blaming Bush and the republican congress for the $339B deficit. The $704B deficit with the democratic congress, not so much. And I'm definitely blaming BO and the democratic congress for the $2.7 trillion deficit.

Tell me where I am wrong?

Ah cum on Tracy, it all has to do with inflation. :turnon::inlove::lol:

Let this be a lesson to you kids. Study hard. Get whatever scholarships you can and get into college. Make yourself marketable and get a job that pays for your health insurance. What... do you want me to pay for your laziness?

haha... keep trying ;)

Well, you see Tracy, in the old days Republicans believed that the government should be thrifty. Then they watched the popularity of the Democrats increase as they spent more money. So the Republicans began to spend more money and the public liked that so they spent even more money. Well, not to be outdone by the Republicans, the Democrats spent even more money. As Cheney once said, the deficit is meaningless. So now we are in a race to see who can spend the most money.
So you know the result of all this -INFLATION!!!!!! :eek:

Oh, good! :yes:
Bionca's my friend, so now I won't have to argue with her and--

HEY! What happened to the whole "I'll not bait the connies" part??? :eek:

Well, first of all, I think it's a GOOD thing to be against "commiez" and communism, as a political line of thought, in general. In fact, I think most Americans would pretty much agree with that one.

As for "teh kweerz", correct me if I'm wrong -- but isn't it the Democrats who always say they're in favor of Gay rights... who campaign on "gay friendly" issues every election season, in order to lock up the voting block... but who THEN conveniently get amnesia AFTER they've won and are put into office?

Last I checked, Obama -- yes, Democrat -- as well as BOTH the House and Senate, which are controlled by -- yes, Democrats -- have spent an entire year conveniently NOT addressing the military "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which they likewise said they'd repeal IF they were elected into office as a majority. Hmm...and come to think of it, they've run as fast as possible from any gay marriage initiatives too, haven't they? Speaking as a California resident, I don't recall the Democratic party REALLY extending themselves very much to defeat Prop 8 (the gay marriage amendment) or even throwing much effort into the fight.

Look, the Republicans aren't saints here. There's no question the FAR right -- the so-called "religious right" -- is always going to strike an adversarial tone. On the other hand, when polled most moderate Republicans actually in favor of things that would help the gay community, and now you even have people like Cindy McCain lending her image and voice in ads towards repealing Prop 8 and fighting FOR gay marriage in California. Tell you what, get back to me when Michelle Obama puts it on the line as much.

All I'm saying is this -- I just wish the gay community wouldn't be so quick, as a voting block, to continually throw themselves in automatically with the Democrats just because they are continually led to believe that THIS is the time that they'll finally get what they want...only then they don't. For that matter, I feel the same way about the African-American community too. At some point, much like the Martha Coakley upset, people simply need to vote for the person they actually BELIEVE is going to bring about the political changes they believe in, rather than just mindlessly voting a party line. :)

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All I'm saying is this -- I just wish the gay community wouldn't be so quick, as a voting block, to continually throw themselves in automatically with the Democrats just because they are continually led to believe that THIS is the time that they'll finally get what they want...only then they don't. For that matter, I feel the same way about the African-American community too. At some point, much like the Martha Coakley upset, people simply need to vote for the person they actually BELIEVE is going to bring about the political changes they believe in, rather than just mindlessly voting a party line.
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Well we all know the Dems are going to promise you everything and give you nothing SO wouldn't you be better off at least working with the Republicans who at least tell you how they feel about the matter and stick with it???

I would much rather deal with someone that didn't agree with all of my thinking but didn't continually lie to my face to get in my ass. And that is what the Dems have done better than anyone else.

Remember the definition of STUPID is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. I would much rather be IGNORANT which is simply not having been educated one a subject.

Now the "welfare class" know that they need the Liberal Dems for subsistance like a leach needs a warm body for blood. But the people in the "working class" that go along with the Liberal Dems are either ignorant or stupid. The members of the "upper class" that are Liberal Dems are simply there to make more money, Ever see a "upper class" Liberal Dem give a huge chunk percentage wise away to the "welfare Class" or charities. Hell no--they are the cheapest characters going. They want the "working class" to support the "welfare class".

Neither Democrat or Republicans are going to PULL anyone up the ladder, that's up to each individual. But if you think the Republicans aren't stepping on the hands of the common working man, you're out of your mind.

You were wrong the first time you turned on Fox News!!!! ha ha ha

Obama has introduced a plan for a non-partisan panel to investigate the truth behind these outrageous deficits, the vote comes up this tuesday and the Republicans are going to vote it down! They don't want you to know where the money went. They don't want to fix it because that means raising taxes, and this whole fucked up mess happened because Bush attacked IRAQ and didn't want to pay for it! He asked the American People to GO SHOPPING!!!

Bush's spend spend spend policies are DIRECTLY responsible for the mess we're in now. Watch the spin on tueday.