Battered women, lots of help, battered tgirls...

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I know that 99% of gay men are only interested in men sexually, and 1% is interested in tgirls, only to look straight, my stats are far from official.

But what about the gay pride thing, they only invite tgirls to get more floats in the parade? nothing else?

What about the Gay Lesbian and Trans thing is that also shadows without substance, and words without meanings?


JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

I know that 99% of gay men are only interested in men sexually, and 1% is interested in tgirls, only to look straight, my stats are far from official.

But what about the gay pride thing, they only invite tgirls to get more floats in the parade? nothing else?

What about the Gay Lesbian and Trans thing is that also shadows without substance, and words without meanings?


JohnDowe.

It wouldn't be an issue of feeling threatened by gay men. It would be an issue of my assailant being able to access freely the place where I was supposed to be safe.

There are a number of Gay Pride parades that don't invite trans groups to march, arrest trans women for using the women's restrooms (London Pride), make it very clear that trans group representation should be small and silent.

There is not a lot of harmony politically between G&L groups and Trans groups. Trans people have been used to inflate hate crimes statistics to pass legislation that does not protect us because including us would be "too controversial".

[johndowe]

Hi there.

This is after the "uktony" thing, just so you know (Bionca), and i AM leaving that there, hope you do the same.

So you girls are left fo fend for yourselves no mater what happens...

Not good.


Maby taking martial arts lessons might help?

Like Judo, karate, kung-fu etc.

You could defend yourselves, and anyone that hits a woman is a coward, you fighting back would make him back off and let you leave.

JohnDowe.

[franalexes]

John,
are you the guy that felt me up in a bar and I kicked him in the nuts and made a suprano out of him?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

fran, as i stated i want to leave the Uktony thing in the Uktony thread, OK.

If you want an ansewer post this in the Uktony thread.

JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

This is after the "uktony" thing, just so you know (Bionca), and i AM leaving that there, hope you do the same.

So you girls are left fo fend for yourselves no mater what happens...

Not good.


Maby taking martial arts lessons might help?

Like Judo, karate, kung-fu etc.

You could defend yourselves, and anyone that hits a woman is a coward, you fighting back would make him back off and let you leave.

JohnDowe.

What happens in one thread says there. No feelings carried over from another thread.

Yes, self defense can and does help. I grew up a tiny boy in rural America - I had to learn how to be scrappy. I took some kick boxing as I transitioned. I don't know how much it would reduce the cases of DV among trans women, but I do think that more classes targeted at specific groups with in trans communities would be helpful.

Actually some friends were blogging and chatting about this very thing.

Sorry I didn't respond to this sooner - but this topic is really hard for me to discuss sometimes.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

When i stated that i was at a loss for words, it was because i was feeling a bit chocked up about the blatant disregard for tgirls and their safety.

So i understand, even if my perspective is different than yours.

Also, i didn't start this thread to make you or anybody else feel bad, but to address the problem of domestic violence against tgirls.

But about battered gay shelters, if he wanted to find you there, he would have to say that he was gay, so, wouldn't that be samewhat of a deterrant?


As for not responding sooner, well if you couldn't earlyer, you couldn't, but if you post in a thread you should go back and see if it got responded to, i responded to a few of your posts and never got any ansewers.

And if you think i am one of the guys that needs to be swatted, tell me, i won't like it, but i will respect your wishes.


JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

When i stated that i was at a loss for words, it was because i was feeling a bit chocked up about the blatant disregard for tgirls and their safety.

So i understand, even if my perspective is different than yours.

Also, i didn't start this thread to make you or anybody else feel bad, but to address the problem of domestic violence against tgirls.

But about battered gay shelters, if he wanted to find you there, he would have to say that he was gay, so, wouldn't that be samewhat of a deterrant?


As for not responding sooner, well if you couldn't earlyer, you couldn't, but if you post in a thread you should go back and see if it got responded to, i responded to a few of your posts and never got any ansewers.

And if you think i am one of the guys that needs to be swatted, tell me, i won't like it, but i will respect your wishes.


JohnDowe.

John - I swat any who need it, don't worry about that

Yes, this topic is hard for me. However, if it was too hard to talk about I wouldn't have commented. No need to explain your motivations on starting this thread. I think you are honestly trying to get to a solution or process ideas. Which brings me to...

Yes, if the guy wanted to get to me he would have to tell someone he was gay. This might stop some guys, but I don't think many. Heck, guys used to "play gay" to get out of the draft. I would imagine it would be even less of a problem claim gayness to intimidate a T-girl into not pressing charges or to finish the job if your intention was to kill her.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Well, the more i look the more i see that things are difficult for you, but, you seem to be a bit more of a fighter than most trans women, maby you should address this problem with other trans women until a few of them start something to help all trans women, and i realy think it should be started by a trans woman, if only for the trust of confidenciality of status and they could also help "fledgeling" trans women with id and other things, like attitude, make-up, feminine deportement, psychologists, etc., making the trans women community stronger and more freindly.

JohnDowe.