Battered women, lots of help, battered tgirls...

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I was thinking, is there any centers for battered gay men, or a center for gay bashing victims that could also help tgirls?


JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

I was thinking, is there any centers for battered gay men, or a center for gay bashing victims that could also help tgirls?


JohnDowe.

Not very many centers for gay men, and that's a problem on its own.

From my perspective, I would not have been comfortable after my assault being with gay men. A men's shelter could have let in my attacker had he decided to claim abuse. There was a case in the UK where a lesbian went to a DV shelter and her abusive partner followed and gained entry for 2 hours before being escorted out. That would have devastated me. Also, gay men are not exactly welcoming to trans women. In fact many of them are pretty hostile

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I know that 99% of gay men are only interested in men sexually, and 1% is interested in tgirls, only to look straight, my stats are far from official.

But what about the gay pride thing, they only invite tgirls to get more floats in the parade? nothing else?

What about the Gay Lesbian and Trans thing is that also shadows without substance, and words without meanings?


JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

I know that 99% of gay men are only interested in men sexually, and 1% is interested in tgirls, only to look straight, my stats are far from official.

But what about the gay pride thing, they only invite tgirls to get more floats in the parade? nothing else?

What about the Gay Lesbian and Trans thing is that also shadows without substance, and words without meanings?


JohnDowe.

It wouldn't be an issue of feeling threatened by gay men. It would be an issue of my assailant being able to access freely the place where I was supposed to be safe.

There are a number of Gay Pride parades that don't invite trans groups to march, arrest trans women for using the women's restrooms (London Pride), make it very clear that trans group representation should be small and silent.

There is not a lot of harmony politically between G&L groups and Trans groups. Trans people have been used to inflate hate crimes statistics to pass legislation that does not protect us because including us would be "too controversial".

[johndowe]

Hi there.

This is after the "uktony" thing, just so you know (Bionca), and i AM leaving that there, hope you do the same.

So you girls are left fo fend for yourselves no mater what happens...

Not good.


Maby taking martial arts lessons might help?

Like Judo, karate, kung-fu etc.

You could defend yourselves, and anyone that hits a woman is a coward, you fighting back would make him back off and let you leave.

JohnDowe.

[franalexes]

John,
are you the guy that felt me up in a bar and I kicked him in the nuts and made a suprano out of him?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

fran, as i stated i want to leave the Uktony thing in the Uktony thread, OK.

If you want an ansewer post this in the Uktony thread.

JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

This is after the "uktony" thing, just so you know (Bionca), and i AM leaving that there, hope you do the same.

So you girls are left fo fend for yourselves no mater what happens...

Not good.


Maby taking martial arts lessons might help?

Like Judo, karate, kung-fu etc.

You could defend yourselves, and anyone that hits a woman is a coward, you fighting back would make him back off and let you leave.

JohnDowe.

What happens in one thread says there. No feelings carried over from another thread.

Yes, self defense can and does help. I grew up a tiny boy in rural America - I had to learn how to be scrappy. I took some kick boxing as I transitioned. I don't know how much it would reduce the cases of DV among trans women, but I do think that more classes targeted at specific groups with in trans communities would be helpful.

Actually some friends were blogging and chatting about this very thing.

Sorry I didn't respond to this sooner - but this topic is really hard for me to discuss sometimes.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

When i stated that i was at a loss for words, it was because i was feeling a bit chocked up about the blatant disregard for tgirls and their safety.

So i understand, even if my perspective is different than yours.

Also, i didn't start this thread to make you or anybody else feel bad, but to address the problem of domestic violence against tgirls.

But about battered gay shelters, if he wanted to find you there, he would have to say that he was gay, so, wouldn't that be samewhat of a deterrant?


As for not responding sooner, well if you couldn't earlyer, you couldn't, but if you post in a thread you should go back and see if it got responded to, i responded to a few of your posts and never got any ansewers.

And if you think i am one of the guys that needs to be swatted, tell me, i won't like it, but i will respect your wishes.


JohnDowe.