Battered women, lots of help, battered tgirls...

[Bionca]

Domestic Violence (DV) shelters in the US and Canada are usually privately operated charities with some assistance from the gov't. Being private, they are able to restrict their services as they choose. Sadly, it is very common for shelters to offer no place for trans women (homeless and emergency shelters as well). Some are very supportive and house trans women, but a majority do not.

When criticized for this lack of support the reasons given are that a penis may bring up anxiety/fear to some of the women, or the fear that a violent man would pretend to be trans to get at the women. Essentially it boils down to SOME women's potential ick or problems with trans women is more important than the actual safety of trans women.

The other reason given is that shelters are poorly funded on donations with very little help from the state. This is true. The proposed solution is to have trans-specific shelters. There is one major problem with that. The trans population is so small and spread out that even in cities with large populations of Trans women (NY, Vancouver, LA) there still isn't enough of a population to fund these services (Drs and administration is not cheep). That's not even counting that fact that trans women largely are underemployed compared to the general population with the same education levels.

Police handling of trans cases are generally abysmal and well known. Most Trans women just try to leave an abusive situation without informing the cops. This leaves their assailant free to find them and revictemize.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Bionca, i appreciate the info and stats, Thank you.

But i was more interested in names of organisations and possible legal help, so that they would know what to do and who to call.

As an example, not that i would wish it onto you or anybody else, but if you Bionca would be in an abusive relationship, what would your options, who would you call, where would you go?

In a way i can understand your reluctance to ansewer me since you don't realy know much about me, but it is because of you that i started this thread in that, you posted those articles about tgirls getting murdered by their lovers, and i took it upon myself to try and help, i never battered any of my g/f's and i don't have an ex that i want to get back with or would want to harm in any way, and i am not asking for specific addresses, but names of organisations that can and do help girls like you.

JohnDowe.

[Bionca]

Because the organizations are all private and there isn't a national registry of DV shelters - for safety reason that is public, I couln't direct anyone to a trans friendly shelter.

Personally, if I were in that situation right now - I would be completely without assistance. There are 2 DV shelters in the city and 3 homeless shelters. Neither DV shelter would be willing to take me. The one homeless shelter is for women and children won't house me. The two other homeless shelters are mixed m/f. Both of these shelters have a trans policy that houses trans women with the group that matches their genitalia. I'd be housed with the men.

When I was assaulted, I called a friend who called the cops. The cops lectured me on being honest about what I was and then went to find the guy. I knew his name and phone number - somehow he was never found. I think the "helpful warning" was enough public service for those officers.

That was a pretty horrible time. The assault and not knowing what was going on. I trusted that the cops would get him, so didn't really push it. I was also afraid that the cops would be shitty to me again - so I just let it be and eventually moved to a new city (many reasons for that move though)

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Well, that's sad to say the least, i am sorry to hear that you were assaulted, and that the cops were such a great disappointment, but it isn't a big surprise though, and i hope thing are better for you.

I am a tv but not a trans woman, and i am a bit frustrated with these facts, it kinda feels as though no one cares about trans women and what happens to them, i always say the world is a cold place but it seems it's not going to get any warmer any time soon, global warming doesn't seem to affect the human condition very much either.

...

At the moment i am a bit at a loss for words...

JohnDowe.

[suebone]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Well, that's sad to say the least, i am sorry to hear that you were assaulted, and that the cops were such a great disappointment, but it isn't a big surprise though, and i hope thing are better for you.

I am a tv but not a trans woman, and i am a bit frustrated with these facts, it kinda feels as though no one cares about trans women and what happens to them, i always say the world is a cold place but it seems it's not going to get any warmer any time soon, global warming doesn't seem to affect the human condition very much either.

...

At the moment i am a bit at a loss for words...

JohnDowe.

Good info coming from all post u r getting.went thru a lot of this.

o look in this post; Under General Discussion. for :Small tits skinny girls:
thread line #8 bottom right picture, very close to what my sister & I look like.
sis has lighter straight hair I have lighter natural curley hair.w/dark tans at this time. Have fun, sue b

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by suebone

Good info coming from all post u r getting.went thru a lot of this.

o look in this post; Under General Discussion. for :Small tits skinny girls:
thread line #8 bottom right picture, very close to what my sister & I look like.
sis has lighter straight hair I have lighter natural curley hair.w/dark tans at this time. Have fun, sue b

Hi there.

Is this the pic?

If it is you two are realy cute.

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JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I was thinking, is there any centers for battered gay men, or a center for gay bashing victims that could also help tgirls?


JohnDowe.

[suebone]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Is this the pic?

If it is you two are realy cute.

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JohnDowe.

Hi Peter .that's the one. thanks;
sue b
( allways short and sweet )

[Kimmy_t]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Essentially it boils down to SOME women's potential ick or problems with trans women is more important than the actual safety of trans women.

I've been refused access to a women-only child-abuse support group for the same reason.

Hey, we're just mutants, a dude with breasts 's all I am.

[SandraB]

Originally Posted by Kimmy_t

I've been refused access to a women-only child-abuse support group for the same reason.

Hey, we're just mutants, a dude with breasts 's all I am.

Hi all.

Hey, we all get frustrated at times but the thing that COUNTS is how we deal with it.

Also sometimes you have to take a stand and not take no for an ansewer.


Sandra.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by SandraB

Hi all.

Hey, we all get frustrated at times but the thing that COUNTS is how we deal with it.

Also sometimes you have to take a stand and not take no for an ansewer.


Sandra.

Unfortunately, times when one needs shelter and support from DV is not usually the time one CAN make a stand like this. Also, legal precedent is not on our side in this matter.