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[sesame]

Originally Posted by ila

Time for a lesson on the electromagnetic spectrum, Sesame.

The lowest radio waves start and 10^3 hertz. Lower frequencies are referred to as voice frequencies. Microwaves start at just below 10^9 hertz and go to just below 10^12 hertz. Visible light is just below 10^15 hertz. In between microwaves and visible light is infrared. The rest I will agree with you.

The extremely low freq Radio waves start from 3 x 10^1 to 3 x 10^2 hz.
Ila dear, learn from brother Sesame! For a detailed knowledge of radio waves, see the picture below. :D

I knew it would come from you, Ila!
Microwaves= 3 x 10^8 to 3 x 10^11 hz
So, is 10^11 hz wrong?

Visible Light is 4 x 10^14 to 7.5 x 10^14 hz

Visible Light lies between Ultra Violet and InfraRed range.
UV lies between 10^15 to 10^17 hz. And I said 10^16 hz, so am I wrong?

So, you should agree with me all along, Ila, my friend!

[sesame]

The frequency charts for Radio waves and visible light are given below.

[ila]

Originally Posted by sesame

The extremely low freq Radio waves start from 3 x 10^1 to 3 x 10^2 hz.
Ila dear, learn from brother Sesame! For a detailed knowledge of radio waves, see the picture below. :D

I knew it would come from you, Ila!
Microwaves= 3 x 10^8 to 3 x 10^11 hz
So, is 10^11 hz wrong?

Visible Light is 4 x 10^14 to 7.5 x 10^14 hz

Visible Light lies between Ultra Violet and InfraRed range.
UV lies between 10^15 to 10^17 hz. And I said 10^16 hz, so am I wrong?

So, you should agree with me all along, Ila, my friend!

I cannot completely agree with you, sesame. Radio waves are always considered to start in the VLF range 3 - 30 khz (3 x 10^3 at the lower end). Anything below that is audio frequencies and frequencies at 3 x 10^1 and 3 x 10^2 are audible to humans.

You are right about microwaves, but your first answer only gave the upper end of microwaves. The least you could have done if you are going to quote only one number is to give the midrange.

The rest I will agree with you on. And yes, I was being picky, but only because it's fun to debate with you.

Remember sesame, tread lightly when you walk into the area of my trade.

[sesame]

Ila dear,
Please shed your majestic gaze on the above picture.
You will see, to your amazement, that Radio waves begin at 30 hertz only in the Extremely Low Frequency Range. ELF.

After that comes Ultra Low Freq beginning at 300 Hz. ULF.

After that comes Very Low Freq, starting at 3000 Hz. Its called VLF.

Refesh your info from time to time. Its very helpful.

Lots of love,
~sesame

[Tread]

Originally Posted by sesame

You will see, to your amazement, that Radio waves begin at 30 hertz only in the Extremely Low Frequency Range. ELF.

Wikipedia: Radio waves begin at 3Hz.

[Tread]

Sorry, have correct. Threre are radio waves under 3Hz, also wikipedia.

[sesame]

What do you have to say about transmutation of elements?
Yes, I'm talking about converting other metals to Gold!

Gold
Atomic num= 79
Group=11
Period=6
Series= Transition Metals
Crystal Struc= Cubic face centered
Latin= Aurum

I think, Hg-->Au has the greatest potential.:D

Mercury
Latin= hydrargyrum (liquid silver)
Atomic num= 80
Period, series are same as Gold.
Group=12
Crystal structure= Rhombohedral

[Tread]

Possible, already done, but highly inefficient.

It's logical possibility in physic standard model. Lead into gold, Platinum into gold and Mercury into gold have successfully be done.

From your kind question, I see that you are not unknown of transmutation of elements. So what do you want to ask really?

[Jenae LaTorque]

[quote=sesame;101267]What do you have to say about transmutation of elements?

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And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it. Exodus 32-20 (King James Version) Note - calf was made of gold

So what is it with GOLD? What was the value of gold to ancient peoples? Why did the Incas gather so much gold, yet used only a small portion of it for religious purposes and some jewelry. Why did ancient miners of 5000 years ago dig hundreds of feet through solid rock to extract it? Is there anything to ORMUS?, shrew bread, the Philosopher's Stone, etc. ?????????

Why do you believe mercury is the best candidate for transmuting to gold? Is it because the ancient Chinese believed so? Did this idea migrate from the East through India and Arabia and from there to the alchemists of Euroupe? Is it just a big coincidence that mercury is associated closely with gold in alchemy texts throughout differant cultures and times, and is right next to gold in our present day periodical table of the elements??????

Getting back to the golden calf; What was the purpose of Moses burning the calf, grinding it down, chucking it upon water, and having all the people drink thereof? Normal burning of gold would simply melt it; so did Moses burn it in a special way? And how do you grind gold? Was Moses converting the gold into a monoatomic state? ORMUS?



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Sesame, I see you have a new Avatar. Can we interpret the rays as light rays? And who was Lucifer (Satan) but "the light bringer"? And then there is the Sun - Son connection.

[sesame]

Originally Posted by ila

I cannot completely agree with you, sesame. Radio waves are always considered to start in the VLF range 3 - 30 khz (3 x 10^3 at the lower end). Anything below that is audio frequencies and frequencies at 3 x 10^1 and 3 x 10^2 are audible to humans.

Dear friend,
We are talking about Light here. Light is ELECTRO MAGNETIC RADIATION. It doesnt need any medium to travel through.

Sound is NOT an ELECTRO MAGNETIC RADIATION. It is only the vibration of the particles of a medium. Its a form of energy though. It cannot travel without a medium.

Human Audio range is between 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. So, even though 30Hz sound overlaps with 30 hz Radio wave, we cannot hear a radio wave, because it doesnt vibrate air.

Light and Sound are two different things.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by Tread

I never heard someone was able to measure their bigness. But they can only a bit bigger then the string that form it. Their mass is 0, until someone find anti gravitation you can't find something lighter. They can be created and can be destroyed, without noticeable particles. So there must be unknown strings everywhere.

Originally Posted by sesame

About Strings
Dear Mister Tread,
It was nice reading your little article. But you forget one tiny detail. Its the Law of conservation of matter and energy.
Matter cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed.
Similarly, Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form.
Even If you apply E=mc^2 formula, matter only gets transferred to energy. So, the sumtotal of all energy always remains the same. Now, how can you say that this most fundamental of all particles, can be created or destroyed? If its created, whence does it come? (If it originates from something else, its not the smallest one! ) If destroyed, where does it go? Bothways, its fundamental nature is proven false.

I said without noticeable (for us by now) particles, and there must be unknown strings everywhere. I meant creating out of these strings and destroyed into these strings. I had better said changes into stings and photons.
But in today measurement we can not detect strings. It seems like they are created and destroyed out of and into nothing. Not clear written by me.

I did not say photons are most fundamental of all particles. The strings are the most fundamental objects that form photons, in string theory.

Originally Posted by sesame

Now, about Photons:

We all know that Light is Radiant energy. By Light I include visible light and both sides of the spectrum. Radio waves with the lowest frequencies of 10^2 hertz,... microwaves 10^11 hertz... visible light 10^14 hz... UV 10^16hz... Xrays 10^19 hz....to Gamma Rays 10^20... cosmic rays 10^22hz the whole bunch! We can explain them by the wave theory as Electro Magnetic Radiation. That explains the velocity of light, reflection, refraction and so on.

But, Light can also be explained as consisting of particles, which explains Defraction and deviation of light from a straight line, while passing masses of great concentration and magnitude. Like planets, stars, black-holes. Scientists say that this happens due to the warping of the matrix around those bodies. And Photons (Light particles) follow the matrix. This my friend, can only be explained by the theory of Particles. And where there are particles, there has got to be some mass and bigness!

If you can explain reflection, refraction and so on fully by only using Electro Magnetic Radiation, you would know more than anyone else. This are also effects that only can explained with light as wave and particle.

Photons have no electric charge. But they carry electromagnetic force.
It could be possible that this causes the detraction of light by passing masses of great concentration and magnitude.
As long as nobody knows how gravitation, gravitons, works, we could not exclude an interaction of with zero mass photon.
It could also be possible that the photon has a mass, but then we need something new for quantum mechanics. It needs zero mass photons.
I don't know for sure, but in string theory every one calculates with zero mass photons.

If some one understands light fully or can combine quantum mechanics and general relativity, the Nobel prize is sure.

Originally Posted by randolph

Do you think the Higgs is a valid theory or is something else coming along?

You answered the most yourself with wikipedia.

The Higgs bosons (there are five kinds of it) and the Higgs field are the easiest way to explain mass. Without mass none physic theory would work.
Maybe mass is more complicated, I don't know, but something must cause the mass.

If Higgs bosons exist, we are very close (a few years) to find them in particle accelerators like the LHC (Large Hadron Collider).

[Cocks with beauty]

So Mr Sesame, ref. your assertion
" Matter cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed ",
and " Similarly, Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form "

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MATTER MEETS ANTIMATTER ? ( The existence of both has been proved experimentally )

I'd be interested to see the theoretical Interaction Equations.

Oblige me please.

[Jenae LaTorque]

[quote=Cocks with beauty;101998]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MATTER MEETS ANTIMATTER ?
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E = mc²

The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy (by the mass-energy equivalence formula E = mc²), or the rough equivalent of 47 megatons of TNT.

The above is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

[Tread]

Are the SI Units (like kg and J) so unknown in the USA, that you have to link them?
Why USA, Burma and Liberia don't accept le Système international d'unités, like everyone else?

[randolph]

[QUOTE=Jenae LaTorque;102046]

Originally Posted by Cocks with beauty

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MATTER MEETS ANTIMATTER ?


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E = mc²

The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy (by the mass-energy equivalence formula E = mc²), or the rough equivalent of 47 megatons of TNT.

The above is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

Hey Jenae,
What would happen if I tried to peta your joules?

[Mel Asher]

Originally Posted by Cocks with beauty

So Mr Sesame, ref. your assertion
" Matter cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed ",
and " Similarly, Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form "

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MATTER MEETS ANTIMATTER ? ( The existence of both has been proved experimentally )

I'd be interested to see the theoretical Interaction Equations.

Oblige me please.

I don't want people to think I am replying for Sesame, or that I am trying to take anything away from Jenae's authorship of this Thread, but it looks as though you have assumed that nothing is left when Antimatter hits Matter.
This is not so. Almost invariably intense Gamma Radiation is created with a very short duration, which is why I would imagine Jenae quoted E=mc2. In fact the velocity of stellar Gamma Ray emissions is far less than the speed of light, which is why it takes a hell of a long time to reach instruments here on Earth, and sometimes never reaches us at all if it is not aligned with our galaxy. Only a small proportion of Gamma Radiation received from space can be accounted for in this way, and Matter-Antimatter interactions in Space are one of the Holy Grails sought by many Astrophysicists.

And yes, the product of Matter-Antimatter interaction is pure energy ( mostly Gamma Rays )

What irritates some Astronomers is the observable fact that some stars apparently self-destruct without any apparent residual radiation ! Spooky stuff eh ?

[Jenae LaTorque]

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What irritates some Astronomers is the observable fact that some stars apparently self-destruct without any apparent residual radiation ! Spooky stuff eh ?[/quote]
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Not sure what you mean by "spooky", and really am puzzled by the Astronomers being irritated by it. I for one can accept that we are limited in our observations by what our senses and instruments can detect. No need to get mad, get even! Build a new theory, based on the data you have, to account for it, and figure out a way to test the theory. Do again and again as necessary until you get it right. Only thus will you achieve harmony and enjoy peace and tranquility.

[sesame]

Originally Posted by Cocks with beauty

So Mr Sesame, ref. your assertion
" Matter cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed ",
and " Similarly, Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form "

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MATTER MEETS ANTIMATTER ? ( The existence of both has been proved experimentally )

I'd be interested to see the theoretical Interaction Equations.

Oblige me please.

The sumtotal of all matter and energy in the universe is a constant. When matter and animatter collide, the result is not NOTHING, but the release of huge amounts of energy in the form of Gamma Photons. Each gamma photon carries 511 Kilo electronVolts of energy. If you apply E=mc^2, you will see that the matter-energy equation still holds true.

Antimatter~ example
When a very fast proton collides with a Hydrogen neucleus consisting of 1proton only, the proton and it's kinetic energy is converted to a neutron, an antiproton and a meson. The total electrical and the baryon charges are conserved in this materialization.

But the question is, if there is matter(mostly) and antimatter in this Universe, why doesnt it self-destruct?