Ask Jenae for real answers - no games.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Interesting coincidence today. Here we were discussing bumblebees and what do I come across while I am downloading pics? A tgirl with a bumblebee tatoo which is something I do not remember seeing before. This is Jannyane, from Rio, from Bobs Tgirls.

And yes, Sesame, the point in the my post was that perhaps the new thread page could be revamped - perhaps by moving the previous thread list to a position above the new thread box so the member would be more likely to look at it before beginning the new thread.

[sesame]

What tattoos do you have, Jenae?
This Bumblebee Tgirl is very pretty, I must admit.

[Jenae LaTorque]

When I was younger it was considered as something that only "low lifes" did and then of course there was the biblical proscription in Leviticus against it. I had lots of tatoos as a kid, but those were only the temporary ones that came with a piece of bubble gum. I never really had the urge to have one, so never did.

[The Conquistador]

What are some books you'd recommend for leisurely reading?

[Rachel]

Why are men so insecure ? Why are their egos as fragile as a house of cards? They say they love T girls but wont admit it in public.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Why are men so insecure ? Why are their egos as fragile as a house of cards? They say they love T girls but wont admit it in public.

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I really don't believe men are alone in being insecure. It doesn't take much contemplation to bring to mind all the instances of insecurity in women. So, I will agree that most people are insecure to some degree or another.

As to their ego being as fragile as a house of cards and them being unable to admit to loving a Tgirl, I will say this. Nearly all men (and women) are social animals; most of their behavior and beliefs are governed by the culture and society in which are raised and in which they spend their day to day lives. It takes a rare man to even think differant from the stream of group consensus and an even rarer man to make a stand upon his convictions and stand like a rock against the stream. History is full of people who have braved the tide of popular opinion and beliefs. Some were burned (Jeane d'Arc), some were thrown in jail (Galileo), and some were even crucified (Jesus of Nazareth). Life ain't easy for the one who is differant. Some were lucky; they were only derided and looked upon with scorn. Man is not much better, if at all, than the animal kingdom where the odd one is often turned upon by their fellows and destroyed. If you see where I am going with this, then this is where you interupt me and say, "So what does this have to do with the question?"

The issue of transgenderism is still relatively unkown to the greater masses and thus most of their opinions are based on ignorance and misinformation.
It is the chasm, between this lack of knowledge about the subject by most of his peers (the group consensus) and his personal feelings that place our hero in a very difficult position. On one hand ,he has found this person who he is attracted to, and on the other hand, if he affirms this in public he may be subjected to the ridicule and contempt of his peers (the guys). Most men are going to go with their gut instinct which is of course that of survival.

There are a lot of paralels between this situation and the case of a pair of mixed race lovers a few generations back. And yet, look how much easily
mixed couples are taken in stride today. Sure there are pockets of resistance, but they are shrinking all the time. Hopefully this will become the case with TG relationships also. Hopefully it will evolve to tolerance, than to acceptance, and finally to loving people for who they really are and not judging them by the little boxes we tend to put them in.

I really hope you have the compassion and understanding to see the situation from your significant other's viewpoint. I realize that you have probably tried to discuss this with them, and it wasn't easy. Hopefully, I have helped to put you in a more knowlegable position for further discussion.

I do want to caution you that this is only one facet of the problems facing transgender couples, and my simple answer doesn't really begin to cover the subject. I am sure there is a wealth of information out there on the web. Have you really spent some time googling this subject and reading and thinking about what's out there?

[sesame]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Why are men so insecure ? Why are their egos as fragile as a house of cards? They say they love T girls but wont admit it in public.

A man's fear of being called a "fag" or rediculed by the society (and relatives) is greater than his Love for the Tgirl.


Fear > Love

Thats the simple equation of insecurity.

[fuckstudent]

As we know some man loose hair geneticly when they get older. How is it with trannies? Does this count also for them if their father or grandfather was bold, or this doesn't happend with them because of the hormons they take?

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by sesame

A man's fear of being called a "fag" or rediculed by the society (and relatives) is greater than his Love for the Tgirl.


Fear > Love

Thats the simple equation of insecurity.

Yeah I think you are both right. The very rare few come out of the closet.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

What are some books you'd recommend for leisurely reading?

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I really don't know how you define leisurely reading. A comic book? The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire? The Encyclopedia Britannica? the National Enquirer?

Please give me some examples of your idea of leisurely reading and then perhaps I can give you possible reccomendations.

[The Conquistador]

Mostly fiction and sci-fi but I like realistic sci-fi.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Mostly fiction and sci-fi but I like realistic sci-fi.

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Realistic Science Fiction ???????

I am not sure what you mean by the add on term "realistic" that you use here. I think you are using the term to exclude fantasy type stories with elves, witches, wizards, etc. As you know. the line between the two genres is often blurred as in the Pern stories which focus on dragons. The worlds of science fiction are usually set in our future which makes it un-realistic to many so I will just reccomend some SF that I have found enjoyable and worthwhile.

1. Anything by Robert Heinlein starting with Stranger in a Strange Land . There is a reason he has won more Hugo awards for novels than anybody else.

2. The Dune Series by Frank Herbert. Even the continuation of the series by his son with K. Anderson are worthwhile.

3. The Ender Wiggins series by Orson Scott Card. I have never ever forgot the short story that spawned this series. Talk about a big oak tree that sprang from a little acorn.

4. The Foundation Series by Issac Assimov. Another author like Heinlein who has written tons of great books.


These are just a few. I could go on for hours talking about SF. But on to other genres. I have favorite authors of whom I love almost anything they write.

Stephan King - The master. There is a valid reason why he is the yardstick by which others are measured. The Stand is one of my all time favorites!

Anne Rice - Even if you don't care for vampire fiction, you should read Cry to Heaven and Memnoch the Devil. Forget about the crap she has written since she returned to the fold and embraced Christianity. She comes across like a naive beginner in those.

Colleen McCullough - Her series on Roman history has been characterised as "a work of monumental fiction" and I couldn't agree more. They are a great read. It doesn't matter if you are familiar with the history of Rome or not, she brings the characters to life like few other authors can, and creates a totally believable scenario from the immense amount of research she did prior to her writing.

James Michener - Which of his books did I like? Every last one of them!

I hope this is enough for now. It is hard to recommend a book to someone. Especially when you know next to nothing about them. I have read a lot of books in my life and it is hard to separate out the ones to reccomend; I have read so many good books. My folks gave me and my siblings a big advantage in this area. There was no TV in our house when I was a child and since we lived in the country, books were a constant influence. The interesting thing there is that my Dad, who was primarily responsible for this, wasn't near a voracious reader as any of us kids. Never understood this, or him, I guess. In later years he spent hours watching sports on TV; something I consider a great waste of time. I could give rat shit about whether the Broncs beat the Chiefs in a game, and I damn sure wasn't going to waste time watching the process. Thanks, Dad!