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WTF? that makes no sense. Names for objects are not ideas. I think you fail to comprehend reality.
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Second as a unit of time is an idea, so is zero and the decimal system.
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Second as a unit of time is an idea, so is zero and the decimal system.
Umm, the second was not invented until the year 1000, by subdivision of the minuite by 60, creating the second, and again by 60 creating the third and then fourth. The word for second of course coming from the cardinal number.


And why would the greeks use the vedic names for numbers but not the decimal system itself? Major logic failure!

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Cool Magical word origin

What is the origin of the word:

A B R A C A D A B R A
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B R A C A D A B R
A B R A C A D A B
A B R A C A D A
A B R A C A D
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What majesty should be, what duty is,
Why day is day, night is night, and time is time.
Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time.
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief. Your noble son is mad.

Alas, Gentle ila, nobe ila, is mad!


I'm just pulling your leg, ila dear!
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What is the origin of the word:

A B R A C A D A B R A
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B R A C A D A B R
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B R A C A D A B
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B R A C A D A
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B R A C A D
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  • To Johndowe, if you quote my original question about abracadabra and this one, you will find the structural difference and economy of code used to create the latter pattern.
  • Since ila or anyone else has not attempted to answer my question for so long, I will give the answer for sake's sake!

  • Abracadabra was indeed a word of power in ancient Greece. This magical formula was to be written in a parchment and worn in an amulet as a necklace. It was supposed to ward off sickness. The exact greek word was ABRASADABRA with an "S".
  • Another very ancient source:
    Hebrew words for Father(ab), son(ben), holy spirit(ruach acadosch)...
    gave rise to Aramaic idiom, avra kedabra, which meant, "I will create as I speak!"

  • Later on, magicians and performers used those magical words to add some mysticism to their shows, along with "Presto", "Voila" and "hocus-pocus".
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And why would the greeks use the vedic names for numbers but not the decimal system itself? Major logic failure!

Think before you speak boyo.
Without the concept of zero, invented in India, there would be no decimal system, Girlie!
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Default Metric system vs. Pounds and Feet

The metric system, so neat and clean, increasing in multiples of ten, is the most scientific system of measurement. It was devised in 18th century France by scientists like Lavoisier (my favourite) under the rule of Louis 16.

Length: mm, cm, dm, meter, deca, hecto, kilometer
Mass: Grams... ... Kilograms
Temperature: Celsius.

Compare that with Pound-oz, inch-feet-yards, fathoms, furlongs, miles, leagues, fahrenheit system, with no head or tail, no co-ordination or interrelation!!! Just wondering, I mean no offence to anyone.

Water boils at 100 degree Celsius and freezes at zero degree. Neat!
The Triple point of water is 0.01°C.

Now, water boils at 212°Fahrenheit and freezes at 32!!! Triple point of water is 32.018 °F.

One cubic centimeter of water has a volume of 1 milli-liter, so 1000 cc = 1 L. Neat and clean, no confusion!

1 ounce= 16 drams = 480 grains = 1/12 pound
1 gallon = 231 cubic inches!
1 pint = 28.875 cubic inches. Bring me the calculator!

1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 ft = 63360 inches. Wow!
1 Km = 1000 m = 100,000 cm. Smooth!
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WTF? Way to go off on a tangent.

Avoirdupois weights are far more complex than you imagine btw. You can blame the French for them too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoirdupois

And as for the concept of Zero, sorry but what the fuck does that have to do with your faulty logic? Your shit still makes no sense.

Also, zero is not exactly an amazing discovery, it's not like every culture in the world had zero. Oh wait, they did. You don't get the importance of zero in the decimal system, it's not the role of zero as a number, but of the numeral zero's use as a positional digit that enables the decimal system. Although the use of zero in not actually essential, the use of any positional digit works the same.

Anyway, your logic is still faulty.


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Oh lets see, zero was first written in South America by the Olmecs, therefore the Indians must have copied them, all zero's everywhere originate from the Olmecs.
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Stone artifacts in Ethiopia date from 2.6 million years ago
Can you show us some pictures or post links?
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Stone Artifacts, eh? It sounds fishy!!

The earliest human bones have been found in Tianyuan Cave, near Beijing, China.

Its 42000 years old, belonging to a fully developed Homo sepiens.
By the "Out of Africa" theory, Homo sapiens originated in E. Africa and then spread out across the globe about 70,000 years ago.
The first Homo neanderthalensis or Neanderthals were from Europe and Central Asia and lived around 500,000 years ago. The earliest humanoid species Homo habilis lived in Africa around 2.2 million years ago. But they moved on all fours! Apes basically. Homo erectus 2 million years ago existed in Africa, Eurasia, Java, they first stood on two feet. We only have fossils belonging to these 2 earliest species from around 2 million years ago.

Now, Anna, my clever friend, how can you get 2.6 million years old stone ARTIFACTS? Are you inventing them? Or did the aliens present you with the alleged artifacts?

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Stone Artifacts, eh? It sounds fishy!!

The earliest human bones have been found in Tianyuan Cave, near Beijing, China.

Its 42000 years old, belonging to a fully developed Homo sepiens.
By the "Out of Africa" theory, Homo sapiens originated in E. Africa and then spread out across the globe about 70,000 years ago.
The first Homo neanderthalensis or Neanderthals were from Europe and Central Asia and lived around 500,000 years ago. The earliest humanoid species Homo habilis lived in Africa around 2.2 million years ago. But they moved on all fours! Apes basically. Homo erectus 2 million years ago existed in Africa, Eurasia, Java, they first stood on two feet. We only have fossils belonging to these 2 earliest species from around 2 million years ago.

Now, Anna, my clever friend, how can you get 2.6 million years old stone ARTIFACTS? Are you inventing them? Or did the aliens present you with the alleged artifacts?

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Australopithecus, Paranthropus and Homo Habilis were all know to use Oldowan tools. The first 2 were around before 2.6 million years ago, Homo Habilis apeared 2.2 million years ago so was late to the Oldowan party.
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Can you show us some pictures or post links?
Lol, stumped you there eh?

Semaw, S., M. J. Rogers, J. Quade, P. R. Renne, R. F. Butler, M. Domínguez-Rodrigo, D. Stout, W. S. Hart, T. Pickering, and S. W. Simpson. 2003. 2.6-Million-year-old stone tools and associated bones from OGS-6 and OGS-7, Gona, Afar, Ethiopia. Journal of Human Evolution 45:169-177.

I don't have any pictures of the particular finds, but I can tell you the tools were Oldowan, which consist of Awls, Unifacial and Bifacial choppers, Burins (used for engraving) and Scrapers.
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Pliocene 2.6 mill humanoid tools
I got it. Thank you Anna, honestly.
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