Da na na na na na na na na na naa BATMAN!

all the old batman films ie the ones with michael keaton val killmer and george dudeney in them where a series they followed on from one and other.
batman begins and the dark knight are also a series but seperate from the originals, and as i concider them to be superior to the originals i would have hoped for more films in this current series, but now with heath ledger dead i think its going to be a bit shit that there will be no conclusion to the joker story. and while i agree that some of the other vilains would be quite good i just don't see any of them grabbing the audience's attention quite like the joker.
ps uma thurman as poison ivy mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Big_Willie]

I think you give too much credit to Heath. True, he was shining in this role but you know there are other great actors out there who can also do an amazing job with a proper script. So don't say other villains can't be as good or better than the Joker!

About closure: there are some ways they could do this. For example don't explain anything, maybe say a few words about it, just leave his dissapearance a mistery for some time and maybe a few films later a new actor can jump in to continue or finish that story. I'd like this one a lot.

Oh, and I'd love to see Uma again too, she is so hot!

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

You don't need closure.

Never kill your best villian.

Just look at Dr Who, you always let 1 Dalek sneak out the back door.


The Joker always get arrested and is sent to Arkham asylum, because he is insane. He stays in the asylum for however long he thinks is funny, then he escapes, a few films later, they can have someone else do the Joker, he will be a bit different, but ppl change over time, so it would be ok if they do it well.

Dr who, is super crap, i wouldn't use it as an example of how to do anything other than be a big pile of cheesy crap that everyone thinks is amazing for some reason.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

But it's still going. Why? cos they keep bringing back their best villain. Look at star wars, they could easily have killed darth vader at the end of star wars, but they had him escape in his tie fighter, thus allowing him to return in empire strikes back. Closure is bad if you want to make a series. And an ambiguos ending is just as good, like with 2 face, no one checked his pulse, or the best comeback ever, Sherlock Homes. Presumed dead, but they never found his body, so he could come back later.

Closure sucks.

[sesame]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

But it's still going. Why? cos they keep bringing back their best villain. Look at star wars, they could easily have killed darth vader at the end of star wars, but they had him escape in his tie fighter, thus allowing him to return in empire strikes back. Closure is bad if you want to make a series. And an ambiguos ending is just as good, like with 2 face, no one checked his pulse, or the best comeback ever, Sherlock Homes. Presumed dead, but they never found his body, so he could come back later.

Closure sucks.

1. Starwars (IV) 1977
2. Empire Strikes Back (starwars-V) 1980
3. Return of the Jedi (starwars-VI) 1983
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
5. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
6. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

Anna, the first Starwar film ever, had Darth Vader in it. And Most importantly, Vader was in the End of the Starwar story, "The Return of the Jedi" back in 1983; actually it should be Starwars VI, 6th part if you follow George Lucas, the author! They filmed the first chapters of Starwars much later. So, killing Vader in the first parts is out of the question.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by sesame

1. Starwars (IV) 1977
2. Empire Strikes Back (starwars-V) 1980
3. Return of the Jedi (starwars-VI) 1983
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
5. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
6. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

Anna, the first Starwar film ever, had Darth Vader in it. And Most importantly, Vader was in the End of the Starwar story, "The Return of the Jedi" back in 1983; actually it should be Starwars VI, 6th part if you follow George Lucas, the author! They filmed the first chapters of Starwars much later. So, killing Vader in the first parts is out of the question.

WTF are you blabbering about?

Fuck episode one fuck Attack of the Clones, fuck the Sith, fuck midichlorians, and fuck computer animated aliens, George Lucas is dead to me since 1989, I would have said 1984, but he does 1 good thing since then, which is Last Crusade, but other than that, he has done solid shit since 1984, I have just 6 words: Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure.

George lucas, you should have died a great men in 1984, when your soul did.

As far as I'm concerned, there are 3 Star Wars movies: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. anything else is just an abomination created by the soulless zombie that was once George Lucas, stumbling about moaning caaaaash caaaaaasshh.



The moment I'm talking about is the destruction of hte first death star, when Darth Escapes. Lucas could have killed Darth, and had closure for the only film they thought they would get to make of Lucas' starwars idea, but he chose to let him escape to fight another highly entertaining day in Empire Strike Back.



Of course the best example of not giving closure is James Bond. It went on for years with Blofeld escaping, no closure allowed, blofeld always escapes, it took several decades before Blofeld was finaly put down hte chimney. Imagine how shit it would have been if he had whacked Blofeld in From Russia with Love.


the Joker is pretty much Batmans nemesis, he can't die, imagine if Sherlock homes had killed Moriarty straight away, that would totaly have sucked.