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my point was that there was no closure to the joker story, it didn't seem like he was ready to retire to the costa del sol at the end of the movie, so how are they going to explain his absence in the sequel. they cant just not mention it, and any atempt to explain his absence is going to seem pathetic. also any other vilain is going to be be so lame when measured against the joker now. i think it was the fact that he was doing it all for shits and gigles basicaly, that realy set him apart.

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Originally Posted by rhythmic delivery

my point was that there was no closure to the joker story, it didn't seem like he was ready to retire to the costa del sol at the end of the movie, so how are they going to explain his absence in the sequel. they cant just not mention it, and any atempt to explain his absence is going to seem pathetic. also any other vilain is going to be be so lame when measured against the joker now. i think it was the fact that he was doing it all for shits and gigles basicaly, that realy set him apart.

The filmmakers dont really care to explain anything. In the last Joker film with Jack Nicholson, Joker died from a great fall. In the other film Penguin's life came to an end. In the Riddler film with Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones played the part of Two-Face... but in Dark Knight, the history of Two-Face changed! I very much liked Arnold Schwarzenegger in Batman and Robin as Mr Freeze. There was this vamp called Ivy who spread plant poison everywhere. She could be a fitting villain... Uma Thurman played that role.

Anyway, you can consider the Dark Knight as a description of events when Joker was still alive, not as a sequel of the other Batman films. In the same way, more films about batman might come along as separate events totally unrelated to the others that came before.

all the old batman films ie the ones with michael keaton val killmer and george dudeney in them where a series they followed on from one and other.
batman begins and the dark knight are also a series but seperate from the originals, and as i concider them to be superior to the originals i would have hoped for more films in this current series, but now with heath ledger dead i think its going to be a bit shit that there will be no conclusion to the joker story. and while i agree that some of the other vilains would be quite good i just don't see any of them grabbing the audience's attention quite like the joker.
ps uma thurman as poison ivy mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Big_Willie]

I think you give too much credit to Heath. True, he was shining in this role but you know there are other great actors out there who can also do an amazing job with a proper script. So don't say other villains can't be as good or better than the Joker!

About closure: there are some ways they could do this. For example don't explain anything, maybe say a few words about it, just leave his dissapearance a mistery for some time and maybe a few films later a new actor can jump in to continue or finish that story. I'd like this one a lot.

Oh, and I'd love to see Uma again too, she is so hot!

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

You don't need closure.

Never kill your best villian.

Just look at Dr Who, you always let 1 Dalek sneak out the back door.


The Joker always get arrested and is sent to Arkham asylum, because he is insane. He stays in the asylum for however long he thinks is funny, then he escapes, a few films later, they can have someone else do the Joker, he will be a bit different, but ppl change over time, so it would be ok if they do it well.

Dr who, is super crap, i wouldn't use it as an example of how to do anything other than be a big pile of cheesy crap that everyone thinks is amazing for some reason.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

But it's still going. Why? cos they keep bringing back their best villain. Look at star wars, they could easily have killed darth vader at the end of star wars, but they had him escape in his tie fighter, thus allowing him to return in empire strikes back. Closure is bad if you want to make a series. And an ambiguos ending is just as good, like with 2 face, no one checked his pulse, or the best comeback ever, Sherlock Homes. Presumed dead, but they never found his body, so he could come back later.

Closure sucks.