You didn't build that

[smc]

The lack of seriousness underlying the initial post and the entire right-wing "talking point" about Obama's speech is an embarrassment. We can have a serious discussion about whether government should be reduced to the size where it can be drowned in a bathtub (to use the illustrious Grover Norquist's formulation), and we can have a serious discussion about whether we should leave the creation of shared public infrastructure completely to the private sector to create, but why anyone would engage beyond an initial post to point out how asinine this manipulation of a speech really is boggles the mind. It is just so much mental masturbation.

Anyone can make anything sound however they want. Politicians do it all the time, both Democrats and Republicans. It doesn't make it correct. And the bullshit smears the person who manipulates the speech more than anyone else.

I'm glad we can't smell you, TracyCoxx.

[ila]

The attached picture is the way many people interpret what Obama said. I found it at this site, but I have also seen it on tv.

More along the same theme can be found here.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by ila

The attached picture is the way many people interpret what Obama said. I found it at this site, but I have also seen it on tv.

More along the same theme can be found here.

I think for some people, it's like "wow, he's finally admitted it". And for many others, obama put words to a nagging feeling they've had about him. Obama is trying to get away from those comments, but it's not working. It's got too much of the ring of truth (at least that BO feels this way) for people to dismiss it.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I think for some people, it's like "wow, he's finally admitted it". And for many others, obama put words to a nagging feeling they've had about him. Obama is trying to get away from those comments, but it's not working. It's got too much of the ring of truth (at least that BO feels this way) for people to dismiss it.

Shame, shame, shame ... this bullshit about Obama's speech is just more of the attempt to paint him as something "other" than a real American. It is as shameful as the birth certificate bullshit. It is all wrapped up in racism, too. Shame, shame, shame.

Tracy Coxx even uses the "nagging feeling" phrase that is used by some of the worst offenders. Shame, shame, shame.

I don't support Obama, as I've written before, but ... well ... shame, shame, shame on those of you who give any truck to this bullshit. It is so patently un-American.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

this bullshit about Obama's speech is just more of the attempt to paint him as something "other" than a real American. It is as shameful as the birth certificate bullshit. It is all wrapped up in racism, too. Shame, shame, shame.

Seriously? The race card? The defense one uses for the candidate you claim not to support when there is no defense. This has nothing whatsoever to do about race. I find it amazing that you label these values that Obama goes on about unamerican when they are defended by you and your co-thinkers. What that says about you and other "non-obama supporters" I'll leave that to the reader to decide.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Seriously? The race card? The defense one uses for the candidate you claim not to support when there is no defense. This has nothing whatsoever to do about race. I find it amazing that you label these values that Obama goes on about unamerican when they are defended by you and your co-thinkers. What that says about you and other "non-obama supporters" I'll leave that to the reader to decide.

TracyCoxx, does it give you some kind of perverse pleasure to pretend to be a complete idiot, or pretend to be functionally illiterate? Does your need to be an inveterate troll so overwhelm you that you just can't help yourself? It's truly sad.

I didn't write that "these values that Obama goes on about" are un-American. I wrote that it is un-American to "give any truck to this bullshit" ABOUT him and what he said in the speech in question ... that is, the bullshit about his "otherness."

You know that, because you can read. But whatever it is that compels you just gets the better of you, doesn't it. To quote your pseudo-wit from another thread, directed at me, perhaps there is a 12-step program that can help you.

I stand by my point about racism. I'm not defending Obama by raising it. I'm defending what is right. This Obama-as-other stuff is wrapped tightly in racism. You can pretend it isn't, but it doesn't change reality.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

I didn't write that "these values that Obama goes on about" are un-American. I wrote that it is un-American to "give any truck to this bullshit" ABOUT him and what he said in the speech in question ... that is, the bullshit about his "otherness."

Ok, let me try and understand. I didn't give any, uh, truck? to this bullshit ABOUT him and what he said in the speech in question. And this is when I said "I think for some people, it's like "wow, he's finally admitted it". And for many others, obama put words to a nagging feeling they've had about him. Obama is trying to get away from those comments, but it's not working. It's got too much of the ring of truth (at least that BO feels this way) for people to dismiss it".

Ok, I guess the key word in what you said is 'truck'. I am not an academic where words like truck and their obvious uses do not apply. You'll have to rephrase that one.

Originally Posted by smc

I stand by my point about racism. I'm not defending Obama by raising it. I'm defending what is right. This Obama-as-other stuff is wrapped tightly in racism. You can pretend it isn't, but it doesn't change reality.

Ok, look again at

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I think for some people, it's like "wow, he's finally admitted it". And for many others, obama put words to a nagging feeling they've had about him. Obama is trying to get away from those comments, but it's not working. It's got too much of the ring of truth (at least that BO feels this way) for people to dismiss it.

Please bold the "Obama-as-other stuff" part so I can see what you're talking about.