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No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? WTF???!!

I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?
Come on Tracy, it's obvious why he doesn't want to release a photo of Bin Laden with part of his head blown off and his brain exposed. His supporters would go insane.
If Bush had done in Bin Laden this would you have questioned his motives for withholding the photos?
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Shooting Bin Laden was the correct alternative to keeping him alive.
Dumping him in the ocean was correct even if they didn't get the details EXACTLY right.( I don't care)
The photos are most probably gruesome. I have never seen anything of Bin Laden except photos so how would I know anything else, true or false?
If there is anything to finish this, I think I'll go pee in the ocean. ( Pee on his grave)
let's spend our thoughts on those that died in New York and elsewhere that did not get fair warning, Did not get a trial, did not get to have a body to bury, did not get to say goodbye,
These are the people that deserve world recognition.
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Come on Tracy, it's obvious why he doesn't want to release a photo of Bin Laden with part of his head blown off and his brain exposed. His supporters would go insane.
If Bush had done in Bin Laden this would you have questioned his motives for withholding the photos?
I'm not questioning Obama's motives for not releasing the photos. I believe it's exactly as you said. But I'm sure there's at least one photo that doesn't highlight his thalamus. Or they can be cropped appropriately. If Bush hadn't released the photos I would be just as pissed. His number one stated goal at the beginning of this war was to get Bin Laden. And for him to just to make Bin Laden disappear without a trace would seem pretty fishy. I'm not saying it's fishy that BO did it, he's just way overly sensitive of Muslims. But it would be fishy for Bush to do so.
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No pics of Bin Laden with a hole in his head will be released? ... I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?
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I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. ...

... Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop.

Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.
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I'm not questioning Obama's motives for not releasing the photos. I believe it's exactly as you said. But I'm sure there's at least one photo that doesn't highlight his thalamus. Or they can be cropped appropriately. If Bush hadn't released the photos I would be just as pissed. His number one stated goal at the beginning of this war was to get Bin Laden. And for him to just to make Bin Laden disappear without a trace would seem pretty fishy. I'm not saying it's fishy that BO did it, he's just way overly sensitive of Muslims. But it would be fishy for Bush to do so.
First there is the allegation that the pictures would be fake.

Then there's the backtracking: Tracy Coxx doesn't really believe they didn't get bin Laden.

Then there is the allegation that the visit to Ground Zero is a campaign stop.

Finally, there is the obligatory mention of Bush, including the statement that Tracy Coxx would have been just as pissed had Bush not released the photos.

With the rapid-fire accusations and backtracking, it may be difficult to keep track of the recurring theme. What Obama does that Bush did is never the same. Yes, the trip to Ground Zero is a campaign stop. Yes, Bush continually made campaign-like spectacles during his administration against the backdrop of milestones in the "war on terror" (remember "Mission Accomplished"?)

It's hard to take seriously what someone writes when it seems to be all for theater, and meant -- as franalexes so aptly noted -- controversy designed to piss off, not to advance a discussion.
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A Navy Seal seems to have hit a target.

In a political forum, the best way to avoid being a target is not to re-act to being hit. Secondary of course is to not jump out of the foxhole everytime someone posts.

Now guys, keep it in perspective. I seriously doubt anyone making public policy is reading this forum.

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A Navy Seal seems to have hit a target.

In a political forum, the best way to avoid being a target is not to re-act to being hit. Secondary of course is to not jump out of the foxhole everytime someone posts.

Now guys, keep it in perspective. I seriously doubt anyone making public policy is reading this forum.
"Keep it in perspective" -- well, here's mine. Anyone who posts is subject to rebuttal. Some people are afraid of being targets; others are not. Some people don't mind there ideas and posts being scruitinized; others whine when it happens. We are all part of the polity, whether we officially make policy or not. Oh, and trolling is trolling, whether it is excused by anyone or not.
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Al Qaeda confirms that Bin Laden is dead. And now they vow to retaliate. Fine. We'll file that in the round file with their other 423 threats of retaliation.
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Al Qaeda confirms that Bin Laden is dead. And now they vow to retaliate. Fine. We'll file that in the round file with their other 423 threats of retaliation.
What's the difference between "retaliation" and the killing of innocent civilians they have been doing all along?
A new era seems to be unfolding in the Middle East. The insane religious jihadists are becoming irrelevant. Young people throughout the Middle East know how to use their cell phones and the internet to organize and bring down corrupt authoritarian governments. They don't need jihad, their energy is far more effective than jihad ever was.
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