Osama bin Laden is dead

[TracyCoxx]

I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. Bin Laden could easily release another video with him and showing current news papers to show that he's still alive.

I'm just illustrating the impression people around the world are going to have with the way Obama handled it. They kill the worlds most wanted terrorist and dump him in the sea somewhere within hours and hide any photographic evidence that it ever happened. Why? Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop.

Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I don't actually think they didn't get Bin Laden. Bin Laden could easily release another video with him and showing current news papers to show that he's still alive.

I'm just illustrating the impression people around the world are going to have with the way Obama handled it. They kill the worlds most wanted terrorist and dump him in the sea somewhere within hours and hide any photographic evidence that it ever happened. Why? Obama says we don't need to "spike the football". What does he call his trip to Ground Zero? If that's not spiking the football it's a campaign stop.

Oh well... yet another thing to wait for the next administration to do what should be done.

Tracy Coxx wrote: "I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?" Note the use of the word FAKES.

Now Tracy Coxx tries to pull back from throwing a bomb by trying to rationalize an incendiary remark. This is the kind of immature political crap that makes the call for adult behavior so compelling.

I think my point's been made. Post away. I'll say no more on this particular sub-topic of the thread, unless falsehoods are posted that need to be corrected.

[franalexes]

While I tend to be on the conservative side with Tracy he is wrong. ( in my opinion)
The American soldier is efficient. They kill without mercy. I don't give a rat's ass if Usama didn't get a proper funeral or if he got shot with out him having a gun, or if they failed to read Miranda rights, or if they threw him into the ocean naked. I just don't give a s***.
No more than Usama cared about the people that died in New York. The pictures probably are so extreem they would inflame a muslim sect that we don't need to inflame. Now, we got #1. Let's move on to #2. The war against terror is not over. There are people out there that want to kill you just because you are alive. Nothing else is important to them, so don't think any negotiations are possible. "WE" ( those of us who are alive and engaged in this fight either personally or through our government actions ) got the son-of-a-bitch! I don't care how he died, who shot him, how the body was dispossed of, or who takes credit. People who want to see pictures couldn't tell if they were fake pictures or real so why bother? There are those that will always claim the truth is the un-truth.

Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off.

[TracyCoxx]

[QUOTE=franalexes;183825The pictures probably are so extreem they would inflame a muslim sect that we don't need to inflame. Now, we got #1. Let's move on to #2. The war against terror is not over. There are people out there that want to kill you just because you are alive. Nothing else is important to them, so don't think any negotiations are possible.[/QUOTE]

You're right, negotiations are not possible. But I don't think we should go out of our way so as not to offend anyone on how this mass murderer of muslims and non-muslims is disposed of. Some cultures need to understand that not everyone agrees with them. And that's ok!

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

You're right, negotiations are not possible. But I don't think we should go out of our way so as not to offend anyone on how this mass murderer of muslims and non-muslims is disposed of. Some cultures need to understand that not everyone agrees with them. And that's ok!

On that I agree. I think the funeral part was more for our own ( whatever) than his. I wouldn't have taken 45 minutes but I don't care.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by franalexes

On that I agree. I think the funeral part was more for our own ( whatever) than his. I wouldn't have taken 45 minutes but I don't care.

I think it was crucial for us to get rid of the body. If his followers had got hold of it all hell would have broken loose. He would have been paraded all over the Middle east as a martyr. Rather than the ocean, a pool of lava in a volcano would have been a good choice.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

Tracy Coxx wrote: "I smell a rat. What's the matter. Is the administration afraid their fakes aren't good enough?" Note the use of the word FAKES.

Now Tracy Coxx tries to pull back from throwing a bomb by trying to rationalize an incendiary remark. This is the kind of immature political crap that makes the call for adult behavior so compelling.

I think my point's been made.

Please do not put down other users. I will try and do better with my adult behavior, but it's hard since so many people on here stray from adhering to serious mature discussion on this forum. It makes it confusing since you do not reprimand them as well. Perhaps if you could add some forum rules that would make it clearer what this adult behavior is that you expect?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Please do not put down other users. I will try and do better with my adult behavior, but it's hard since so many people on here stray from adhering to serious mature discussion on this forum. It makes it confusing since you do not reprimand them as well. Perhaps if you could add some forum rules that would make it clearer what this adult behavior is that you expect?

Bravo to franalexes for stating what should be obvious: "Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off."

You consistently post deliberately provocative and incendiary things, like a troll would do on any Internet site, and then when someone challenges the troll-like behavior you take umbrage. If someone wants to be treated as an adult, one must act that way. In political discourse, seriousness is the hallmark of mature behavior.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

Bravo to franalexes for stating what should be obvious: "Further, I don't believe Tracy cares either. I think he posted contraversy just to piss somebody off."

You consistently post deliberately provocative and incendiary things, like a troll would do on any Internet site, and then when someone challenges the troll-like behavior you take umbrage. If someone wants to be treated as an adult, one must act that way. In political discourse, seriousness is the hallmark of mature behavior.

You're stealing my thunder smc. I should have been the one to judge Tracy as troll.

[randolph]

For many years after WWII the Soviet Union was presented to us as the ultimate evil. The collapse of the USSR left a gap in our world view that was filled by Bin Laden, a man determined to destroy us and our way of life. Who or what will replace him as the new threat? We will have to wait and see what the neocons come up with next, to keep us scared and easy to manipulate and willing to spend umteen billions on military activities.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

For many years after WWII the Soviet Union was presented to us as the ultimate evil. The collapse of the USSR left a gap in our world view that was filled by Bin Laden, a man determined to destroy us and our way of life. Who or what will replace him as the new threat? We will have to wait and see what the neocons come up with next, to keep us scared and easy to manipulate and willing to spend umteen billions on military activities.

I joke about Al Qaeda's latest threat against us, but the fact is as long as there is an Al Qaeda there is a constant threat. Do you really think they're gone?

But the good news is we do not have to take down countries anymore to get them. The rest is a mop-up operation.

But despite them, the biggest threat to the country right now is not military.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

For many years after WWII the Soviet Union was presented to us as the ultimate evil. The collapse of the USSR left a gap in our world view that was filled by Bin Laden, a man determined to destroy us and our way of life. Who or what will replace him as the new threat? We will have to wait and see what the neocons come up with next, to keep us scared and easy to manipulate and willing to spend umteen billions on military activities.

Well there's still Iran and North Korea and if that doesn't work they'll invent someone

Jerseygirl Jen