Liberal free for all coming to an end

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

I know this was addressed to Tracy but if I may interject.


If there is a program such as Social Security or Obamacare that voluntarily allows for me to put in my money, I am all for it. Unfortunately, especially at the federal level, it no longer becomes voluntary and becomes mandatory. If people want to voluntarily put money into a program, let them. Do not threaten them with jail time or fines or increased taxes because they do not want part of your healthcare or whatever program is being pitched.


Just because it is well intentioned does not mean there is possibility for abuse.


Albert Camus

Universal healthcare is a good idea but the government should pay for it. Requiring everyone to belong and forcing people to pay for it is a serious abrogation of our liberties.
If the rest of the civilized world can have universal healthcare why cant we? Oh right, we have to give tax breaks to the rich and spend billions on wars.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Universal healthcare is a good idea but the government should pay for it. Requiring everyone to belong and forcing people to pay for it is a serious abrogation of our liberties.
If the rest of the civilized world can have universal healthcare why cant we? Oh right, we have to give tax breaks to the rich and spend billions on wars.

You do realize that the government by itself does not make much money and the money it does have is collected from you, I and everyone else who either lives in this country or does business with us by the way of taxes and tarrifs, right? So you would be paying for inferior care whether you recognize it or not.

Can you clarify the bolded part? Is that aimed at treatment facilities, health insurance companies and hospitals or is that directed at the government?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Universal healthcare is a good idea but the government should pay for it. Requiring everyone to belong and forcing people to pay for it is a serious abrogation of our liberties.

How does the government pay for it without taxing the people for that cost?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

How does the government pay for it without taxing the people for that cost?

Well, of course we don't get something for nothing. Europeans are willing to pay high taxes for health care because they consider it worth it. It releases them from the anxiety of whether they can afford the healthcare they need to stay alive.
Apparently, in this country, the people who have healthcare don't care whether people without it live or die. I think there is a racial component to this issue along with being "poor".

[TracyCoxx]

[QUOTE=randolph;164323Apparently, in this country, the people who have healthcare don't care whether people without it live or die. I think there is a racial component to this issue along with being "poor".[/QUOTE]
Oh puleeeeez!