Coakley Is Out--brown Wins

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Everybody has their own reality. Conservatives have their reality. Liberals have their reality. As humans we naturally gravitate to groups and news that matches our reality. For example, almost 50% of the people in the country watch Fox news and believe it is reliable and honest. Fox News fits their perception of reality therefore it is reliable and honest. The facts are otherwise, Fox News obviously caters to the conservatives in the country. They say what conservatives want to here. The same is true of liberal media. I listen to PBS's Bill Moyer's. I believe what he says and think he is a really good guy, that's my reality. Perhaps we are genetically endowed to "fit" into certain political/ideological categories. Tracy and I are poles apart politically but we both love this country. That's the way its always been since the first George.

Yes. Both parties and sides obviously cater their "respective" groups. The problem is when people focus on the whole "this vs. that" instead of what each side is proposing. If people took the time to look at a problem objectively and not what "feels good" and actually look at what both parties propose (expanse of government powers, diminishing individual liberties) they would be actually disgusted with what is going on.



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"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus

[jimnaseum]

Truth is free, power costs money. If the house and senate had to vote on what color purple is, the results would be divided along party lines. Reddish blue or bluish red.
If a reliable voice-stress lie-detector were ever invented, you'd find out all our leaders are lying, and all the people know nothing. How could they?

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Truth is free, power costs money. If the house and senate had to vote on what color purple is, the results would be divided along party lines. Reddish blue or bluish red.
If a reliable voice-stress lie-detector were ever invented, you'd find out all our leaders are lying, and all the people know nothing. How could they?

JIM:

The first liar was the first pharaoh.


TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Brown's win forced a complete rewrite of TMF's speech. Instead of health care he's forced to listen to what the people want - Jobs. So he'll talk about jobs tonight, not because he wants to. Because he has to. And because he failed at his promise of creating jobs by last February so the issue is still here.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Brown's win forced a complete rewrite of TMF's speech. Instead of health care he's forced to listen to what the people want - Jobs. So he'll talk about jobs tonight, not because he wants to. Because he has to. And because he failed at his promise of creating jobs by last February so the issue is still here.

Create jobs a year ago? The economy was spiraling into a black hole! Surely, he should have focused as much on saving jobs as he focused on saving the banks. But even for God things take time and Obama is not God, right?
And politicians regardless of political persuasion never get things done properly, anyway.
They are too busy counting the money from lobbyists. Six hundred million form the drug/health industry for example.
Yes, he lost touch with his base after getting elected. He is no FDR that's for sure.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

He is no FDR that's for sure.

FDR was a shithead who didn't care for the "working man", the person he was supposedly trying to help. I'd say they're in the same boat.

[jimnaseum]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

FDR was a shithead.

WHOOOOAH, there, pardner!!!

FDR took the United States from the Depression to SUPERPOWER status!
Your Republican buddies took us from SUPERPOWER status to the Depression!!! Read a book, Man!!!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Create jobs a year ago? The economy was spiraling into a black hole! Surely, he should have focused as much on saving jobs as he focused on saving the banks. But even for God things take time and Obama is not God, right?

Yeah, last year TMF said unemployment would go no higher than 8.5% because of his stimulus package. It busted that in february.

Originally Posted by randolph

And politicians regardless of political persuasion never get things done properly, anyway.
They are too busy counting the money from lobbyists. Six hundred million form the drug/health industry for example.
Yes, he lost touch with his base after getting elected. He is no FDR that's for sure.

Well he'll burden generations to come as FDR did at least.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Yeah, last year TMF said unemployment would go no higher than 8.5% because of his stimulus package. It busted that in february.

Well he'll burden generations to come as FDR did at least.

Hey, don't knock Jimmy, my savings were paying 10% in those days.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Brown's win forced a complete rewrite of TMF's speech. Instead of health care he's forced to listen to what the people want - Jobs. So he'll talk about jobs tonight, not because he wants to. Because he has to. And because he failed at his promise of creating jobs by last February so the issue is still here.

TRACY:

Bush 43 wasn't a true Conse 'Pub: end of story?

Obama had how long to fix everything to your satisfaction?

Replace him now with a true Conse 'Pub?

How long does 45 get to fix things?

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

Bush 43 wasn't a true Conse 'Pub: end of story?

Obama had how long to fix everything to your satisfaction?

Replace him now with a true Conse 'Pub?

How long does 45 get to fix things?

TAL

Don't blame me. I'm using the timetable Obama promised.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Don't blame me. I'm using the timetable Obama promised.

TRACY:

Can you be a bit more specific?

What was he suppose to do by when?

Sorry, Conse 'Pubs tend to make promises for opponents, yell that said promises were broken, and your evasiveness doesn't inspire confidence.

TAL