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[sesame]

What do you have to say about transmutation of elements?
Yes, I'm talking about converting other metals to Gold!

Gold
Atomic num= 79
Group=11
Period=6
Series= Transition Metals
Crystal Struc= Cubic face centered
Latin= Aurum

I think, Hg-->Au has the greatest potential.:D

Mercury
Latin= hydrargyrum (liquid silver)
Atomic num= 80
Period, series are same as Gold.
Group=12
Crystal structure= Rhombohedral

[Tread]

Possible, already done, but highly inefficient.

It's logical possibility in physic standard model. Lead into gold, Platinum into gold and Mercury into gold have successfully be done.

From your kind question, I see that you are not unknown of transmutation of elements. So what do you want to ask really?

[sesame]

By Atomic structure

Compare between the atomic structures of Mercury and Gold.
Just take away one proton from Mercury's nucleus and you will get Gold!
Well, somehow you will have to get rid of 3 Neutrons also.:D

Also see the electronic orbits of Gold.
2, 8, 18, 32, 18 and 1
It's electrons are almost satiated, thats why it chemically reacts so scarcely. Just take away that extra electron and it will become completely Inert.

By Rasayana Alchemy

Rasayana is Indian alchemy, thousands of years old. The Yogis could do it in ancient times (as the legend goes). Some yogis until 100 years ago, could somehow digest Arsenic and mix it with their digestive juices (bile). Next they anointed copper in that juice and heat it for hours. When everything cooled, the copper would change to Gold!

The great Buddhist Philosopher Nagarjuna of India, invented 16 methods of gradually purifying Mercury. That involved several chemical reactions. Eventually Mercury would lose the affinity to react at all and its property would change. What is left behind, is a powder. That powder, when added to molten copper and heated for several days, yields Gold.

There is another method prevalent among the wise sages of the Himalayas (called, the Rasayaniks= chemists). They dip mercury for a whole year in a special mineral soln. The rest is the same as above. Actually these men are not in it for the Gold. Gold is a by-product to a medicinal substance that is supposed to extend Life... to many more years.

Western Alchemy

The western alchemists searched ardently for the Philosopher's stone. Their secrets were shrouded in the fog of myths. They gave each element a unique nickname and a symbolical expression. Even the intermediate compounds and alloys had secret identities! Below are 2 pictures depicting such symbols.

[sesame]

Jenae, thats my self portrait, you were talking about. Sun's son... well, are we not? We are each a bundle of the sun's energy. The Sun is the source of all our energy. Chemical energy, heat energy, even the food we eat has it's source in the sun.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by sesame

Jenae, thats my self portrait, you were talking about. Sun's son... well, are we not? We are each a bundle of the sun's energy. The Sun is the source of all our energy. Chemical energy, heat energy, even the food we eat has it's source in the sun.

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"The sun is the source of all our energy" Not so!

Consider geothermal energy. Geothermal energy's originates from the consolidation of dust and gas which formed this planet along with most of the rest of our solar system more than 4 billion years ago. Since the same process formed the sun then you could point to this consolidation as the source of all our energy. And then you could point even further back to the Big Bang if you wanted to.

Then consider nuclear energy. It's source lies in the beginnings of the universe also and is not derived from the sun. Then consider that there are also forms of magnetic and electrical energy that are not derived from the sun either. So???????

[Jenae LaTorque]

[quote=sesame;101267]What do you have to say about transmutation of elements?

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And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it. Exodus 32-20 (King James Version) Note - calf was made of gold

So what is it with GOLD? What was the value of gold to ancient peoples? Why did the Incas gather so much gold, yet used only a small portion of it for religious purposes and some jewelry. Why did ancient miners of 5000 years ago dig hundreds of feet through solid rock to extract it? Is there anything to ORMUS?, shrew bread, the Philosopher's Stone, etc. ?????????

Why do you believe mercury is the best candidate for transmuting to gold? Is it because the ancient Chinese believed so? Did this idea migrate from the East through India and Arabia and from there to the alchemists of Euroupe? Is it just a big coincidence that mercury is associated closely with gold in alchemy texts throughout differant cultures and times, and is right next to gold in our present day periodical table of the elements??????

Getting back to the golden calf; What was the purpose of Moses burning the calf, grinding it down, chucking it upon water, and having all the people drink thereof? Normal burning of gold would simply melt it; so did Moses burn it in a special way? And how do you grind gold? Was Moses converting the gold into a monoatomic state? ORMUS?



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Sesame, I see you have a new Avatar. Can we interpret the rays as light rays? And who was Lucifer (Satan) but "the light bringer"? And then there is the Sun - Son connection.

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Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

Getting back to the golden calf; What was the purpose of Moses burning the calf, grinding it down, chucking it upon water, and having all the people drink thereof? Normal burning of gold would simply melt it; so did Moses burn it in a special way? And how do you grind gold? Was Moses converting the gold into a monoatomic state? ORMUS?

In water extract cyanide dissolution (I hope it is translated right), gold reacts with oxygen, and other elements, and form “metal complex” structure. And this metal complex can possibility be grinded.
I doubt that Moses knew this. But there is a possibility to let gold react with oxygen (“burn”). It would be a bad idea to drink something that contains cyanide.

Why mercury: I’m sure sesame can answer you.

To the other questions: I don’t have a clue about ancient history and their psychology.

This thread is called “Ask Jenae for real answers – no games”. I know I started unasked answering, but now you start questioning.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by Tread

This thread is called "Ask Jenae for real answers - no games". I know I started unasked answering, but now you start questioning.

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I was using the Socratic method to answer his query as to my views on transmutation. Some investigation into the various subjects I mentioned would open a variety of interesting avenues to approaching the subject of transmutation. Have you googled Ormus to see where that lead you?

[Tread]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

I was using the Socratic method to answer his query as to my views on transmutation. Some investigation into the various subjects I mentioned would open a variety of interesting avenues to approaching the subject of transmutation. Have you googled Ormus to see where that lead you?

Oh yeah, buy the unbelievable wonder powder that heals all kind of disease, only 70$ per ounce.
Totally full of pseudo science and false explanations.
I was talking about influence nucleus and electrons of an atom.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by Tread

Oh yeah, buy the unbelievable wonder powder that heals all kind of disease, only 70$ per ounce.
Totally full of pseudo science and false explanations.
I was talking about influence nucleus and electrons of an atom.

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That was a very shallow hole you dug in your search Try this instead:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus.htm

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Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

That was a very shallow hole you dug in your search Try this instead:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus.htm

I don't know what you want to tell me with the link. I have read similar articles before it. The only useable links refer to the admitted mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose and his controversial model of spirit and consciousness.
I thought that you as atheist (not agnostic or theist), would be more critical to such theories.
The rest are physical effects that are without evidence connected to "ORMUS".

It is highly suspicious that it exists in high amounts, is easy to find, has incredible properties, only known by ancient cultures, and nobody discovered it before 1977.

In the end it leads to the wonder powder that heals everything.