Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

I always knew Fox news was stupid but this is over the top.

OMG LOL. Reminds me of when CNN said 18 crew members on the space station were getting ready to evacuate. There were only 3 at the time.

[sesame]

Its good to be back.
But it feels better to see the old homely atmosphere. Tracy, Randolph and Hank fighting over politics... forever.

Mind you, I didnt say US Politics, as this topic is over Obama. Thats because, whatever these Bigbosses do, their effects are seen all over the world for decades. So, I guess its international politics. Also, theres Mrs. Clinton, touring the world, sealing nuclear deals and selling weapons all over the planet.

[randolph]

How Government Works
Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.
Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So they created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer, then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?" So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost." So they laid off the night watchman.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

How Government Works
Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.
Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So they created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer, then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?" So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost." So they laid off the night watchman.

Jersygirl Jen

[transjen]

Ok i'm going to throw this question out there.
What do you think about the US going with a so cared universal heathcare? And should abortations be covered? Not talking about the cases where the mothers life is endangered just the woman doesn't want the baby. And should SRS be covered?
Jersygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ok i'm going to throw this question out there.
What do you think about the US going with a so cared universal heathcare? And should abortations be covered? Not talking about the cases where the mothers life is endangered just the woman doesn't want the baby. And should SRS be covered?
Jersygirl Jen

Boy, this topic should generate some opinions.
Mine- We need universal health care, period. The Bush tax cuts to the rich would have paid for it. SRS is a complex of diseases and should be treated by health care. Abortions? If a women doesn't want her baby, she should give it away for adoption! If she doesn't want a pregnancy she should pay for the abortion and learn how not to get pregnant.
Humm, I guess trannys could make girls pregnant, if they have the balls to do it. Although, I don't think anyone ever got pregnant through anal sex.

Question? are tranny sperm gay?

[franalexes]

Holly crap Jen! You didn't step in a puddle, you went for the whole ocean!

Anyway, that said, abortion is the taking of a life. It is similar to capital punishment. I support both, but only for those that truely deserve it.

Think about my answer a long time before responding.

[randolph]

From Tracy,
Bill Gates became the richest guy in the world because he knew what IBM didn't at the time... that operating systems is where the money is at. Is a single thought in someone's head really worth over $100 billion? Well, actually it was a few thoughts at very strategic moments. The man is a genius at business and he deserves what he has made. I think it's inspiring. Anyone can do it. Republicans believe in peoples potential. Democrats believe that people are incompetent and need help. For an individual, like Bill Gates, to become so powerful that they employ thousands of people and donate over $2 billion/year to charities is not in the democrats plan. They want people to become dependent on the government. They want to control people. That's your kind of democracy.
Tracy,
This is total BS. Gates was incredibly lucky to get the contract to supply IBM's PC with a disk operating system. He adapted much of the PC DOS system from CPM. He made millions by being a monopoly and IBM's naive belief that the PC would be a novelty with little market potential.

Democrats believe people are incompetent?
The rich have an overwhelming advantage over the rest of us. The little guys need some help to become competitive and as a businessman my self, I can assure you, the rich will do everything in their power to stay being rich and that includes doing in the competition any way they can.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

How Government Works
Once upon a time...

So true. And exactly why the government should not take over banks, car companies or health care.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

So true. And exactly why the government should not take over banks, car companies or health care.

Yes, i knew you would agree with this. It is an exaggeration, obviously. The problem is, do we put up with some inefficiency of a government health care system or a private health care system that denies sick people the help they need. Actually, Medicare costs have risen significantly slower than private health care services. I presume you have health care, probably provided by your employer. What if you get laid off and you have no health care, think about it. The other problem with private health care is that even with private health care many people are going bankrupt over medical costs anyway.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

The problem is, do we put up with some inefficiency of a government health care system or a private health care system that denies sick people the help they need.

BO's plan also denies sick people the help they need... see above.

Originally Posted by randolph

I presume you have health care, probably provided by your employer. What if you get laid off and you have no health care, think about it.

Then I would be screwed. Because then my status would change and I would be forced to change to the national health care plan, rather than get other private insurance coverage when I get another job.