Barack Obama

[transjen]

Ok i'm going to throw this question out there.
What do you think about the US going with a so cared universal heathcare? And should abortations be covered? Not talking about the cases where the mothers life is endangered just the woman doesn't want the baby. And should SRS be covered?
Jersygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ok i'm going to throw this question out there.
What do you think about the US going with a so cared universal heathcare? And should abortations be covered? Not talking about the cases where the mothers life is endangered just the woman doesn't want the baby. And should SRS be covered?
Jersygirl Jen

Boy, this topic should generate some opinions.
Mine- We need universal health care, period. The Bush tax cuts to the rich would have paid for it. SRS is a complex of diseases and should be treated by health care. Abortions? If a women doesn't want her baby, she should give it away for adoption! If she doesn't want a pregnancy she should pay for the abortion and learn how not to get pregnant.
Humm, I guess trannys could make girls pregnant, if they have the balls to do it. Although, I don't think anyone ever got pregnant through anal sex.

Question? are tranny sperm gay?

[franalexes]

Holly crap Jen! You didn't step in a puddle, you went for the whole ocean!

Anyway, that said, abortion is the taking of a life. It is similar to capital punishment. I support both, but only for those that truely deserve it.

Think about my answer a long time before responding.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Holly crap Jen! You didn't step in a puddle, you went for the whole ocean!

Anyway, that said, abortion is the taking of a life. It is similar to capital punishment. I support both, but only for those that truely deserve it.

Think about my answer a long time before responding.

From what you say. Do you believe a fetus could deserve to be aborted?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ok i'm going to throw this question out there.
What do you think about the US going with a so cared universal heathcare? And should abortations be covered? Not talking about the cases where the mothers life is endangered just the woman doesn't want the baby. And should SRS be covered?
Jersygirl Jen

Universal health care obviously should be DOA. My mom emailed me complaining about the health care package they are considering. As a sr citizen she is rightly worried that healthcare will be cut for seniors so that illegal aliens. This is insanity.

Here's what Dr. Dave Janda, keynote speaker at a congressional dinner had to say...

Originally Posted by Dr Dave Janda

The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care. There is no focus on preventing health care need whatever. The plan's method is the most inhumane and unethical approach to cutting costs I can imagine as a physician.

The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board "will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment."

Translation.....if you are over 65 or have been recently diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated.....pick out your coffin.

Oh, you say this could never happen? Sorry.... this is the same model they use in Britain.

The plan mandates that there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available in the future. It creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research, the purpose of which is "to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs." Yes, this is to be the law.

It goes on to say......"Doctors and hospitals not adhering to guidelines will face penalties." According to those in Congress, penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment.

So according to The ObamaCare Plan.....if your doctor saves your life you migh t have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union.

Section 102 has the Orwellian title, "Protecting the Choice to Keep Current Coverage." What this section really mandates is that it is illegal to keep your private insurance if your status changes - e.g., if you lose or change your job, retire from your job and become a senior, graduate from college and get your first job. Yes, illegal.

Then ther e is Section 1233 of The ObamaCare Plan, devoted to "Advanced Care Planning." After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner.

This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, "how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate hospice care." It is no wonder The Obama Administration does not like my emphasis on Prevention. For Mr. Obama, prevention is the "enemy" as people would live longer.

After I finished my Capitol Hill presentation, I was asked by a Congressman in the question-answer session: "I'll be doing a number of network interviews on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer?"

The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful. I told him that one word is FASCIST.

Then I added, "I hope you'll have the courage to use that word, Congressman. No other word is more appropriate."

Suck it Obama

[randolph]

A significant portion of Medicare costs are in the last six months of a persons life. Does this make sense?

[randolph]

Dr Dave Janda is a well known physician in the sports medicine field. He obviously has put a very negative spin on public health care. Is what he says really the way the system would work or is he spinning things out of context. I haven't heard such a negative view from other reviewers of the proposed system.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Suck it Obama

Hey Tracy! Can Obama and I switch places? He doesn't deserve the privlige of having a womans cock in his mouth.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Hey Tracy! Can Obama and I switch places? He doesn't deserve the privlige of having a womans cock in his mouth.

Okay Mr. Post, I would issue a word of caution. Tracy's cock may be desirable, however, you may be subjected to hours of right wing political rhetoric trickling down from the ultimate conservative spin machine, the Heritage Foundation.

[tslover586]

theres two things i know for sure about america as a veteran. One, its run by lobbysts. not the house or senate or president or the people. LOBBYSTS!!!! do you really want the people with the money decided what meds to give you when your sick. Not this guy. I want the best meds for the right reasons not the wrong political unfunded/overfunded reasons. until we kick lobbysts out of washington, or atleast stop letting them make campiagn controbutions, favors will be owed to rich componies and poor americans will just be sol.
the second thing i know is no matter what side you are the other is always wrong. its been this way since the begginging. so why did, for the second time since the 1860s become divided into sides. the north vs the south. the reps and the dems. FUCK THAT. im american, not liberal, not conservative not republican not demecrate. american. and my american values come before any party affiliation.
until these two problems are solved, america will continue in its downward spiral. no matter who's in office. blame it on reagan, bush, clinton, bush or obama. wich i feel sorry for the last guy, cause we pin all our hopes from the last three decades of fucking over america on this poor inexperienced over talkative young man.
well thats my piece. i had to get it in there. sorry for the intrusion on obama talk.

[randolph]

From Tracy,
Bill Gates became the richest guy in the world because he knew what IBM didn't at the time... that operating systems is where the money is at. Is a single thought in someone's head really worth over $100 billion? Well, actually it was a few thoughts at very strategic moments. The man is a genius at business and he deserves what he has made. I think it's inspiring. Anyone can do it. Republicans believe in peoples potential. Democrats believe that people are incompetent and need help. For an individual, like Bill Gates, to become so powerful that they employ thousands of people and donate over $2 billion/year to charities is not in the democrats plan. They want people to become dependent on the government. They want to control people. That's your kind of democracy.
Tracy,
This is total BS. Gates was incredibly lucky to get the contract to supply IBM's PC with a disk operating system. He adapted much of the PC DOS system from CPM. He made millions by being a monopoly and IBM's naive belief that the PC would be a novelty with little market potential.

Democrats believe people are incompetent?
The rich have an overwhelming advantage over the rest of us. The little guys need some help to become competitive and as a businessman my self, I can assure you, the rich will do everything in their power to stay being rich and that includes doing in the competition any way they can.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Democrats believe people are incompetent?
The rich have an overwhelming advantage over the rest of us. The little guys need some help to become competitive and as a businessman my self, I can assure you, the rich will do everything in their power to stay being rich and that includes doing in the competition any way they can.

So any guy off the street that wants to start a business should be profitable? And if he is not, then more successful companies should be penalized? Shoo... Away with you.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

So any guy off the street that wants to start a business should be profitable? And if he is not, then more successful companies should be penalized? Shoo... Away with you.

I don't think what you are saying has anything to with what I said.

For many years I ran a small business. We didn't make much money but we supported about eight families. Running a business is not easy, I can assure you. I have dealt with local bureaucrats, state bureaucrats and federal bureaucrats. They all suck. The big guys get the premium treatment.
By the way, did you know that Bill Gates paid the salaries of several employees in the local building department so the department would expedite his building plans?