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06-11-2009
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 !At the risk of throwing harmony back into chaos I have a question for you. Since it seems to be so hard to find a candidate that has all the qualities we like we have to make a choice. Conservative economics Strong foreign policy Protect US sovereignty Fundie Bible thumper or Spread the wealth, socialist type economics Toothless foreign policy and apology tours Illegals welcome -Open border policy Secular government (possibly even muslim since he says we're not a christian nation but does say the US is one of the largest muslim countries in the world) Which way do you compromise and why?
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06-11-2009
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Conservative?
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This is what I like. 1- A fiscally responsible pay as you go government (no Reaganomics or Bush BS or Johnson BS, Clinton was better). 2- A reasonably ethical government that encourages thrift and responsibility. 3- A secular government that stays out of religious issues (ie abortion, gay marriage) 4- A government that keeps hands off other countries politics. 5- a government that actively fosters environmental/energy sustainability. 6- a government that carefully regulates capitalism but encourages "free" enterprise. In the good old days we tried to avoid avoid foreign entanglements and we prospered (we made our own stuff). The world has changed (a LOT more people) trade is the name of the game so we have to compete. As long as we keep giving away our productivity to China I don't see how we can afford elaborate welfare/health care programs. We don't have enough people working to support them.  Congress is so beholden to special interests (Dems. and Repubs. alike), I don't see much hope of any positive results. The banks own Congress so what are we to do? We have allowed ourselves to get thoroughly fucked up with materialism (from China). We need to make our own stuff, develop our own energy, and fuck the Chinese and fuck the Arabs. 
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06-11-2009
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06-11-2009
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McCain 1 - Conservative economics 2 - A more ethical government that encourages thrift and responsibility. 3 - Strong foreign policy that includes influencing other countries politics. 4 - a government that carefully regulates capitalism but encourages "free" enterprise. 5 - Fundie Bible thumper 6 - Weak stance against illegal immigration or Obama 1 - Spread the wealth, socialist type economics 2 - Toothless foreign policy and apology tours 3 - Illegals welcome -Open border policy 4 - A secular government that stays out of religious issues (possibly even muslim since he says we're not a christian nation but does say the US is one of the largest muslim countries in the world) 5 - a government that actively fosters environmental/energy sustainability by taking control of car companies and aiming to put coal mining out of business These were our two candidates. I see that each candidate had good points & bad points. I'm wondering why you chose Obama if he violates 1,2,6 and as you're finding out 4 in your list of points? Quote:
 But seriously, the Korean war and Vietnam war was because of other countries politics. I know the republicans didn't start the Vietnam war, but Nixon continued it.As for your comments on losing productivity, special interests and ing the Chinese and Arabs, I agree.
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06-11-2009
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Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft on Obama's plans to enact a higher tax on U.S. companies' foreign profits:
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06-11-2009
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My six points
Tracy,
Nobody will tell me how to do selective quotes so my comments are not synchronized like yours. Re: Randolph's six points I don't particularly agree with your interpretations of my points and how they relate to the two candidates. I think you exaggerate the negative aspects of the Dems. and overly support Repub. views but you are a conservative, right? I used to like McCain, I think he has the best interests of the country at heart. However, He does seem to be somewhat erratic in his thinking. Obama promised an alternative to the mean spirited hegemony obsessed Bush administration.  Will he come through, it remains to be seen.  Obama is very limited on what he can do, its up to Congress to come up with legislation that Obama can support.  I think you exaggerate Obama's "socialist" tendencies. His massive support of the banks would question that. He has "assured" us that owning GM is temporary. Will the Gov. allow GM to fail when it owns it.  Oh, I was thinking of the Monroe Doctrine as a start. Yes, I know we have rarely minded our own business, Teddy Roosevelt, Woody Wilson, Kennedy, Johnson, Ect. 
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06-17-2009
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Obama will reduce the Republican party to Rush, Newt, Cheney, Hannitty, and O'Reilly for the next eight years. Nothing's going to stop the Democratics except the Natural Disasters that occur during that time. Obama's hand on the Rudder of the US might be the steadiest in it's history. I'm not makin' this shit up, it's going on!
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#8
06-17-2009
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Answer: that's right, yet again the Left feels it can hit up the so-called "rich" in the country. The only problem is Obama's idea of who is "rich" has once again dropped, and now you're "rich" to him if you're simply a standard middle class family. Which means we're now officially talking about increasing taxes, across the board for everyone, which is certainly a joke in an economic downturn as severe as the one we're enduring. Not to mention, you're talking about sticking a $1 TRILLION health care bill on top of spending $2 TRILLION in stimulus funds, which all by itself was going to raise our debt level to such a staggering number that it will now leave our kids with a $1 TRILLION deficit per year for the next 10 years -- thus putting the United States nearly $13 TRILLION in the hole. Sorry, but I don't care what kind of fuzzy math the Left wants to trot out, there's simply not enough "rich people" to tax and cover THAT kind of debt load. Since the start of the year, like clockwork, weekly unemployment figures continue to roll in at an amazing rate of over 600,000 jobs shed per week. But I loved that last month the Obama White House crowed they "saved" 30,000 jobs. Seriously, think about that. Four weeks in a month times 600,000 per week translates into 2.4 MILLION jobs lost, yet they were so proud they saved 30,000. And now the White House has changed its own language about "creating" jobs to "saving" jobs instead. And topping it off, there are now meetings taking place overseas to discuss dumping the American dollar in favor of creating a new world currency simply because the rest of the world has lost faith in the American dollar, given the sheer amount of money that Obama is trying to spend, borrow, or simply asking the Fed to continually print up so he can spend that money TOO. Sorry, but if this is your idea of the "steadiest hand in history" on the rudder of the U.S economic ship, I would sincerely advise everyone to strap on their life jackets and start heading to the life boats because there's one SERIOUSLY huge motherfucking iceberg ahead. |
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#9
06-17-2009
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