I give up

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Having thought patterns and going out in a dress arent even in the same ball park.

RACHEL:

Isn't it your thoughts that help you understand what the other person is experiencing?

I have a feeling we're talking about 2 different parts of 1 thing.

Could you elaborate on the wearing-a-dress parts you're referring to? Is it the excitement, like wearing sexy lingerie? The uneasiness of being found out? The vulnerability of being delicate? Is it 1, 2, or all? Are there other reasons?

I was referring to understanding the longing and the potholes of the dating process. Granted, that combined with lipstick, panties, a dress, hose and pumps would give you a better understanding; but not by as wide a margin as you appear to be stating.

Piece,


TAL

[Rachel]

Sorry I dont usually have much time to make long speeches here so i I try to keep my answers or replies short and to the point. i thought you might understand what I meant by that.Thrill of going out... Oh yes lots of thrills. And fears too. Fear of getting found out. Fear of gettting beat to the death. Just little stuff like that a Tgirl deals with. Something you cant understand until you have walked in our shoes.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Sorry I dont usually have much time to make long speeches here so i I try to keep my answers or replies short and to the point. i thought you might understand what I meant by that.Thrill of going out... Oh yes lots of thrills. And fears too. Fear of getting found out. Fear of gettting beat to the death. Just little stuff like that a Tgirl deals with. Something you cant understand until you have walked in our shoes.

RACHEL,

I can understand it, having seen it in San Francisco first hand. I saw the fear and can understand it. I've felt the fear of getting beat up, but not for wearing a dress or sexual preference. I can directly rate and understand to at least probably a 70% point of all parts inclusive. Plus, I've experienced the date excitement to an 85% point, and have received flowers.

We weren't on the same page, sweetie. BTW, do your feet hurt walking in those pumps?


Piece,


TAL

[Rachel]

Nah, I walk better in 5 inch heels then I do in low heels

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Nah, I walk better in 5 inch heels then I do in low heels

RACHEL,

How can you tell when you're in that state of euphoria?

It's so interesting that you answered #2 before giving this answer,
which means you feel no pain in that state of bliss, no?


Piece,


TAL

[Rachel]

perhaps somethings are better said in private messages

[Bionca]

Well, I have given up on giving up. A guy I briefly dated this summer (who dumpped me because he started to like me too much *boggle*) asked me out a few weeks ago. We have been dating VERY casually - intentionally not seriously and it has been fun. I have no illusions that we will progress to anything serious, we just don't have that much in common.

One good thing about him... he always shows up when we have a date, and calls if he's late. I'm always amazed at how often we get stood up. He also took me to meet some of his friends.