Would a TS escorting rule out romance?

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by TSmelissacarter

And what is your hang up with this role-model nonsense, why would I give a rat's ass about young tgirls and advice I should be giving them? LOL now you are showing how out of touch you really are. Do you think anyone gave me advice? Do you think there is even a template for this journey??

You are in the wrong league, Mister, you're showing up at a gun fight with a knife. You've shown these readers nothing but an empty opinion to go along with your empty profile. At least I explained my position and illustrated my opinions with real-life ideas. You saw this thread as an opportunity to call me a whore but I stood up and refused to be abused. You espouse your archaic ideaology like "prostitution is a plague", lol what a sack of shit. You back it up with nothing.

I own your ass on this thread. Game over Melissa 1, this anonymous-piece-of-shit-called-smothering-whatever ZERO.

Wait a minute -- now I'm confused. It was one thing to be debating the notion of escort work and could you (or couldn't you) have a relationship with a so-called "working professional girl." That's one thing. But, Melissa, why wouldn't you give a rat's ass about other people? Certainly about any fellow T-girls or as Bionca called them in a previous post "all your fellow sisters"?

You seem a bit angry in so forcefully declaring "Why would I give a rat's ass about young T-girls and advice I should be giving them? Do you think anyone gave me advice?" Well, perhaps that's true. Perhaps no one did give you any advice. Perhaps you had to make this journey on your own and you had many obstacles to overcome. But having done it and having reached this point in life -- where you say you're happy with who you are, and that you enjoy the money you're making as an escort or doing your art and all that -- it seems to me that now you're being a bit harsh.

Sorry, but here's my two cents worth.
In the end, the world breaks down into two types of people...

TYPE 1: Those who had a rough time in life, trying to climb certain ladders or open certain doors, and who were left a bit angry about the way the world treated them -- and thus they feel the next person coming up the ladder or trying to open a door, trying to make it in the world, should have to go through the same bullshit and pain. In short: "Hey, if I had to put up with the bullshit, so do you!!!"

VERSUS

TYPE 2: Those who had a rough time in life or met certain obstacles, and who now want TO HELP the next person in line. Who want to TURN their life experiences into a learning tool to help and spare the next person all of that same pain. In short: a person who wants to use their life to make things better and easier for the next person in line.

Melissa, in your own words, you may feel that you "own this thread" because you believe in your escort career choice, but I hardly think you own this thread on a more human level IF you really don't give a rat's ass about any other T-girls and the plights they are facing. IF you don't care about them facing persecution or societal rejection or even for their feelings as they possibly find their hearts broken on a daily basis. I HOPE that's not how you really feel, and that you just misspoke above in a moment of haste.

After all, isn't the truest measure of us as human beings...of our true worth...being how we help each other? That we DO give a "rat's ass" about each other?

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

But, Melissa, why wouldn't you give a rat's ass about other people? Certainly about any fellow T-girls or as Bionca called them in a previous post "all your fellow sisters"?

bla bla bla

Sorry, but here's my two cents worth.
In the end, the world breaks down into two types of people...

TYPE 1: Those who had a rough time in life, trying to climb certain ladders or open certain doors, and who were left a bit angry about the way the world treated them -- and thus they feel the next person coming up the ladder or trying to open a door, trying to make it in the world, should have to go through the same bullshit and pain. In short: "Hey, if I had to put up with the bullshit, so do you!!!"

VERSUS

TYPE 2: Those who had a rough time in life or met certain obstacles, and who now want TO HELP the next person in line. Who want to TURN their life experiences into a learning tool to help and spare the next person all of that same pain. In short: a person who wants to use their life to make things better and easier for the next person in line.

bla bla bla

After all, isn't the truest measure of us as human beings...of our true worth...being how we help each other? That we DO give a "rat's ass" about each other?

William Blake summed it up much better and succintly:


Some are born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night

As for this horseshit of being a spokesperson or a cheerleader or some kind of role model for the trans community, here is my reply:

FUCK YOU.

I don't need to be any of those things. I can just be me and if they want to learn from me they should watch me. Do you think artists care about the younger art generation coming of age? Do you think Jackson Pollock or Mark Rothko gave a shit about their younger cohorts looking for guidance? Fuck no! They painted, they drank, they lived their lives. And they have left some of the most beautfiul modern artworks ever made. And therein lies the lesson for the young artist.

The greatest thing I can do for any younger tranny, and let me reiterate I could care less about them, is simply live my life.

[Talvenada]

MEL:

You're a handful and a mouthful, and no stranger to pleasure.

Piece,

TAL

Originally Posted by Talvenada

MEL:

You're a handful and a mouthful, and no stranger to pleasure.

Piece,

TAL

FUCKIN A-RIGHT!

Just another wild pony on the loose.

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by TSmelissacarter

William Blake summed it up much better and succintly:

Some are born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night

As for this horseshit of being a spokesperson or a cheerleader or some kind of role model for the trans community, here is my reply:

FUCK YOU.

I don't need to be any of those things. I can just be me and if they want to learn from me they should watch me. Do you think artists care about the younger art generation coming of age? Do you think Jackson Pollock or Mark Rothko gave a shit about their younger cohorts looking for guidance? Fuck no! They painted, they drank, they lived their lives. And they have left some of the most beautfiul modern artworks ever made. And therein lies the lesson for the young artist.

The greatest thing I can do for any younger tranny, and let me reiterate I could care less about them, is simply live my life.

Wow, such GREAT examples in life that you picked there, Melissa.

Let's see, the first was a self-destructive, raging drunk who ultimately alienated and drove away his closest friends and pissed off the critics with his rampant ego, after which he became an isolated soul and spiraled downward into becoming such a piss-poor alcoholic that he ultimately killed himself by driving drunk into a tree...Meanwhile, the other was a self-absorbed, socially withdrawn person who suffered from such low self-esteem that he killed himself by overdosing on anti-depressants AND slicing both of his arms with a razor for good measure.

Gee, you're right, Melissa. They really knew how to "live their lives" and their example makes for SUCH a great "lesson for the young artist." Yep! Those are role models about "how to live your life" that I'd be citing!

Of course, if your attitude about turning to those less fortunate or helping those who are coming up the ladder behind you...who could simply use some kind, consoling help on a basic human level...is a big "Fuck You", then I think you're telling us more about yourself than any finger pointing you're desperately, pathetically and hilariously trying to put our way.

In fact, going back to how this whole thread started and your original question, my initial answer still stands. I think most guys would want their newfound love to leave the escort business behind simply so their romance could be on more stable grounds. On the other hand, given your attitudes expressed here...and your choices in role models about "how to lead your life"...you now bring up a whole new slant to things. Namely, if someone worked as an escort, but was totally self-centered -- in short, they were caught up in such an ego-driven power trip that they were only concerned with them self, about making money anyway or anyhow (legal or illegal), and they were willing to snub or even fuck over anyone who got in their way -- then why WOULD you want to be in a relationship with such a person? It wouldn't matter if they were an escort or not. Why would anyone want to be in a relationship with someone so self-absorbed and ultimately self-destructive?

But hey, that's just my opinion on what makes for a warm and loving relationship that will stand the test of time. Those are my personal and moral viewpoints. Although, I loved that earlier...in reference to those...that you referred to me as St. Francis of Azzizi. Gee, for someone who claims to be such the brilliant former executive -- who chose to leave her success in the corporate world behind to lay on a bed for 500 bucks a fuck instead -- and for someone who claims to be such the intellectual, right down to quoting William Blake, I'd love for you to point out AZZIZI on the map for me. I was just wondering if it might be some place close to ASSISI...

I seriously don't have the time or energy to read through all that but I did notice at the end you corrected me on my spelling, lol.

You insist I as a "seasoned" TS should mentor future TS wannabees. You apparently can't see it but I gave truly excellent advice. They should all read this thread and they'll be better for it.

As an aside, I think it's funny that you, and a few others, expect me to be an example. In my own way I am. I ran 5 miles this morning, took two dates, paid my credit card bills, and am cooking rice now waiting for my bf to come over. I am a success, just like Rothko and Pollock, except I'm clean and sober.

Creative, check my spelling please, thank you.

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

Wow, such GREAT examples in life that you picked there, Melissa.

Let's see, the first was a self-destructive, raging drunk who ultimately alienated and drove away his closest friends and pissed off the critics with his rampant ego, after which he became an isolated soul and spiraled downward into becoming such a piss-poor alcoholic that he ultimately killed himself by driving drunk into a tree...Meanwhile, the other was a self-absorbed, socially withdrawn person who suffered from such low self-esteem that he killed himself by overdosing on anti-depressants AND slicing both of his arms with a razor for good measure.

Gee, you're right, Melissa. They really knew how to "live their lives" and their example makes for SUCH a great "lesson for the young artist." Yep! Those are role models about "how to live your life" that I'd be citing!

Of course, if your attitude about turning to those less fortunate or helping those who are coming up the ladder behind you...who could simply use some kind, consoling help on a basic human level...is a big "Fuck You", then I think you're telling us more about yourself than any finger pointing you're desperately, pathetically and hilariously trying to put our way.

In fact, going back to how this whole thread started and your original question, my initial answer still stands. I think most guys would want their newfound love to leave the escort business behind simply so their romance could be on more stable grounds. On the other hand, given your attitudes expressed here...and your choices in role models about "how to lead your life"...you now bring up a whole new slant to things. Namely, if someone worked as an escort, but was totally self-centered -- in short, they were caught up in such an ego-driven power trip that they were only concerned with them self, about making money anyway or anyhow (legal or illegal), and they were willing to snub or even fuck over anyone who got in their way -- then why WOULD you want to be in a relationship with such a person? It wouldn't matter if they were an escort or not. Why would anyone want to be in a relationship with someone so self-absorbed and ultimately self-destructive?

But hey, that's just my opinion on what makes for a warm and loving relationship that will stand the test of time. Those are my personal and moral viewpoints. Although, I loved that earlier...in reference to those...that you referred to me as St. Francis of Azzizi. Gee, for someone who claims to be such the brilliant former executive -- who chose to leave her success in the corporate world behind to lay on a bed for 500 bucks a fuck instead -- and for someone who claims to be such the intellectual, right down to quoting William Blake, I'd love for you to point out AZZIZI on the map for me. I was just wondering if it might be some place close to ASSISI...

And just so you know, Azzizi is the old world spelling for Assisi. Look at old art books and portraits of St. Francis are spelled Azzizi.

Now back to your search for moral conviction on a porn discussion board, I'm listening...

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by TSmelissacarter

And just so you know, Azzizi is the old world spelling for Assisi. Look at old art books and portraits of St. Francis are spelled Azzizi.

Now back to your search for moral conviction on a porn discussion board, I'm listening...

I highly doubt that. The only one you seem interested in listening to is your own voice, which is continually propelled onward by an intellectually bankrupt brain and a self-delusional ego.

And just so YOU know, the old world spelling for Assisi was NOT "Azzizi", you bonehead -- it was actually ASISIUM, which is the word in its original LATIN form since the town was originally formed by traveling immigrants, then occupied by the Etruscans, and finally the Romans in 295 BC. And notice that even THEN in its Latin form it was spelled using the letter "S." And I would know this why? Gee, maybe because of the multiple degrees I hold, one of them is in Classical History and Ancient Languages.

Oh, and if you don't believe me, here's an easy test for the truly retarded out there: try using your own computer and doing 10 seconds of actual research. Try plugging AZZIZI into Google and see what comes up. The word will generate a lowly 10,000 entries. Now look at the what the entries are about. Do you see anything there about the famous town in Italy? See anything about St. Francis, religion or art history? No. And do you know why it's a "no", Melissa? Because you're wrong yet again.

Gee, what a shock there.

Now plug in ASSISI into Google and hit enter. The result: 11 MILLION entries -- yes, that's millions as in PLURAL -- and you will instantly see from the very first page that they are ALL about the famous Italian town and it's relevance in history, religion, and even art.

In fact, speaking as someone with an art degree as well -- yes, I'm a professional artist myself (as in sold, printed, published, you name it) -- if you actually were an artist as you claim, Melissa, and if you had studied any art history at all, then you'd know that in times of old using the letter "Z" as a replacement for the letter "S" was done NOT to change the spelling, but simply because artists found the brush stroke of making a "Z" easier on a canvas and they often found it to be stylistic in a final rendering. But that simple artistic flourish aside, it doesn't alter the fact that the actual spelling for the town is ASSISI -- and even back then those same artists marking their canvases with a "Z" knew it.

But hey, thanks for trying to play the game yet again, Melissa. You could have let it go, but once again your ego got in the way and you just felt that you HAD to get the last word in, all so you could try to belittle someone who DARED to disagree with you. Once again you thought you could just toss out some tiny bit of information and thus it MUST be true because YOU said it. Unfortunately, all you've managed to do is show everyone what an ego-driven potato head you are.

And on that note, the game show buzzer has sounded and sad to say, you're this week's loser. But don't worry, my lovely co-host dressed in a beautiful gown has a nice consolation prize for you as you exit the stage. At which point we'll now welcome our next game show contestant, who will actually know something about the topic they're speaking of...

And yet after all that blather, you still want to suck my cock.