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Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

Um, no offense but Canada's military is inferior to America's. Don't think so little of our training. We have excellent soldiers serving in several distinguished divisions and the like. Also, no other nation has the technoligical edge of our military. We are operating the world's best battle tank and only the British Challenger rivals it. The most advanced warships and the world's most advanced fighter, the Raptor, and the best ground support beast, the almighty A-10 Warthog. No armor can survive it's onslaught! Even down to lesser weapons, such as various man portable weapons are superior. Plus, our military has more money to spend than most other nations. And, to my knowledge, no other nation possesses such a refined rapid deployment ability that enables us to move troops to any warzone within 24 hours of the order given!

But, in fairness, I know well Canadian snipers are some of the finest in the world and they performed quite well in Afghanistan. I also know Canada, despite being a nation of hockey pucks (teasing so don't beat me to death) have had a proud military history and always answered the call of duty when needed.

But seriously, America, if we wanted to, would roll over yas!
But we love your Canadian bacon which really is just ham and has an erroneous name. And the women are lovely.

I happen to love Ann Coulter and can't see why she gets so much hate, on another note. She's controversial. But because she's right wing she is hated as most of the American and foreign media are dominated by liberal or far left ideologues. What Coulter does is no different than the vile hate mongers on websites like The Daily Kos, Arianna Huffington's garbage site, Media Matters or Moveon do. Only, the far left has the virtue of being in the majority of the media. Coulter is just a highly vocal member of a minority who doesn't get equal nor fair media representation as secular progressives, lefties and their ilk get. But, if one would but be objective they'd see she's just the same as any other controversial figure and the hatred lavished on her is often based on an ideological and ignorant bias of the hater who cannot accept opposing views.

LoL yeah you would roll over canada in the same way you rolled over north korea, vietnam afghanistan and iraq. you may have the best equiped army in the world, but your troops are a bunch of silly litle boys who grew up playing fps's and thought thats what being in the army's like. then they get out there and people are shooting at them all they can do is run for cover and call in an airstrike, with a great posibility that it will land on a friendly position.

[Ogryn1313]

We came along way since North Korea. You must not understand all the intricacies of warfare. Do you think those are examples of some inferiority?

North Korea: politics, ideology, these lost that conflict and resulted in stalemate. It doesn't reflect on the troops.

Vietnam: civil unrest at home, political pressure, and once again ideology are the cause of the withdrawal from the war. American forces won virtually every engagement against the North Vietnamese. However, the enemy was relentless and elusive. The Ho Chi Minh trail was difficult to sever because it constantly changed. Add to these severe restrictions placed on what we were allowed to do and where to go hindered our ability.

Iraq: For some reason people think Iraq is still an American war. They are in error. Coalition forces won the war in Iraq. All the objectives of the war were met. Saddam was overthrown and the Iraqi people have their own government and elections. What is going on in Iraq since Bush declared victory in Iraq isn't an American war. It is an Iraqi civil war in which various groups in Iraq are jockeying for power, with Al Qaeda and Iranian elements thrown in. America is there now as a sort of peace keeping force trying to hold the nation together. It is not a war in the usual sense as our original enemy there has been defeated. The troop surge has worked and many regions are now more peaceful. However, if troops are drawn out Iraq may well fall apart.

One simply needs to look at basic facts through an unbiased filter to see the truth of this. The liberal media and far left interests have constantly reported on Iraq in a negative light, willingly omitting any stories that would report any success or positive advancement. They even went so far as to prejudge and and influence the public regarding General Petraeus's report to Congress. Later on, many congressmen and senators validated the report as truthful and acknowledged the surge has had a positive effect in Iraq. The far left has used this "war" and "failure" to influence the public in order to get a democrat in the White House.

The "war" and "failure" in Iraq right now is entirely upon the Iraqis themselves. Also, do not forget it is a coalition that went into Iraq, not only Americans, including a few of the "superior" nations you speak of. So, it would seem any failure in Iraq ought to be blamed not only on American forces. Yet, notice the media only reports on the American forces, losses, deaths? No mention of the other forces there? This shows it's all biased and agenda driven reportage.

Afghanistan: again, the war was one and the Taliban government was removed. True, Bin Laden has not been killed nor captured. But his fate isn't critical to fighting terrorism. Only a nice vengeance bonus. There are still elements of the Taliban and al Qaeda at work there, operating in the lawless areas and using the difficult terrain to their advantage.

Also, American forces are operating under the strictest and most complex rules of engagement in their history which ties their hands and limits their ability to fight effectively.

Lastly, I reiterate one needs to look at the issue without bias and agenda to see the truth in a thing, and definately not make use of the media to form an opinion on matters. Now, I provoked this with my facetious comments previously. But I have never once denied America's falures. I just refuse to never overlook its successes and good points unlike most of the world these days.

For the record, I think America should have kept an isolationist stance and never entered into any foreign wars, inlcluding WW2. Should have left Europe on its own. We have only ever gotten grief and criticism ever since. I don't care about the Iraqis and they could still be oppressed by Hussein for my two cents. And my response to 9/11 would have been a rapid strike at Afghanistan and Bin Laden's camps unilaterally with no regard for collateral damage and civilian casualties. Terrorists and radical Islamic nations have no such concerns and so should be dealt with in like fashion in my opinion. Isolationist policies are America's best hopes for the future, and not thinking isolationist is what created so many of our problems.

But none of the above reflects upon the quality of our fighting ability and to grasp at things to put our troops down is a huge insult to our living veterans and dead ones. But I apply this thinking to all veterans of any nation. The troops should never be blamed for the failings of the higher ups. It's not the troops who choose their training, equipment, and such, nor is itthey who choose to go to war.

And with this I have said my piece. My apologies to all for such a long post and my applauds to anyone who actually read all of this. I shall now bow out of the topic.

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Wow, she's hot... I'll like to fuck her fucking reactionary fucking ass with my FAI (Iberian Anarchist Federation) flag covering her face.

I've always dreamed of fucking a fascist ass....

¡¡Tierra y Libertad!!

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Soon, the Obama family will become the first family of USA. ... And hopefully change American policies to make it a better place... and stop war games all over the world. And stop making messes all over the places in the name of Aggressive Peacemaking!

Actually, in reply to the posts about America's army being far better than Canada's, please look at the link below. This event actually happened as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5onkl2EHV4

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It pains me that we can sit here and argue over the greater army...Or who might be "more entitled" to this continent...

Back to the topic, YES, I hate Anne Couter and pretty much the entirety of her espoused politic.

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Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

Also, American forces are operating under the strictest and most complex rules of engagement in their history which ties their hands and limits their ability to fight effectively.

You're kidding right? The USA never obeys any rules. It enforces "Laws" on other superpowers but behaves as the unquestionable Bigboss and makes it's own decisions. USA intervenes in foreign politics when it likes and attacks other nations when it sees fit. Its the most war-loving-country in the world!! Its business interest lies in war. Why do you think the US invests the lions share of it's tax money in warfare?

For the record, I think America should have kept an isolationist stance and never entered into any foreign wars, inlcluding WW2. Should have left Europe on its own. We have only ever gotten grief and criticism ever since.

That must be a joke too. If America didnt get involved in WW2, it would not be a superpower today. Scientists from all over the world and especially those fleeing from the Nazis collected in America. So this way, USA got the most valuable brains of the world. Also consider the German gold, where do you think it ended up? And then again, the two Atomic Bombs dropped by USA on quiet civilian Japanese cities, caused quite a sensation. It shocked the whole planet and scared the shit out of all other nations. It also triggered the nuclear arms race. So, America had everything to gain from World War II.