The Homophobic Obsession Of The Catholic Church

[Bionca]

The Church's problem with Homosexuality stems from the Mosaic Law from Leviticus and Paul's letters to the churches in Rome and Corinth. Unfortunately, from an historical perspective the and a linguistic study of the Hebrew and Greek the passages were written in, shows that perhaps the admonishments against "homosexuals" is not as clear as the Pope would have us believe.

[sesame]

We believe quite easily whatever we are fed. Who digs old manuscripts and ancient records to know the truth? Probably next to none.
The church takes advantage of this ignorance and leads us to believe anything. They have gone to unbelievable extents to establish bogus ideas in collective psyche. And history stands testimony that the church becomes quite cruel and ruthless if anyone ( even wise Galileo Galilei ) dares to shake those beliefs. Their merciless ( opposite to Jesus's teachings ) nature comes into action immediately.
In this age of science and anti-feudal democratic environment, the church has wrapped itself up in a harmless (sort of ) garb.

[sesame]

I believe in Jesus.
This cartoon is just for fun.
Dinosaurs are from before the ice age.
Dinosaurs existed 15 Million years ago.

But Bible says, there were pairs of all kinds of animals in Noah's ark.
Were a pair of Dinos in that boat too?

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by sesame

We believe quite easily whatever we are fed. Who digs old manuscripts and ancient records to know the truth? Probably next to none.
The church takes advantage of this ignorance and leads us to believe anything. They have gone to unbelievable extents to establish bogus ideas in collective psyche. And history stands testimony that the church becomes quite cruel and ruthless if anyone ( even wise Galileo Galilei ) dares to shake those beliefs. Their merciless ( opposite to Jesus's teachings ) nature comes into action immediately.
In this age of science and anti-feudal democratic environment, the church has wrapped itself up in a harmless (sort of ) garb.

I believe, in all fairness, that it makes sense to separate dogmatic religions from the more advanced ones. And yes, I do think it has merit to qualify religions by their moral habitus. The good old Danish Lutheran Church does not preach condemnation and anti-anything. It preaches the love of Jesus Christ as the foundation of all good. And that, by my book, is what it's about!

Other religions tend to focus more on all the things that we cannot do from superficial moralistic and outdated values than what is merely the right thing to do. I believe that we're closer to Jesus than ever in the advanced democracies where humanity has become a natural part of every body's life. Sticking ones ass up in the air five times a day chanting GOD GOD GOD does not seem to make one a particularly constructive citizen doing a heck of a lot of good for people in need. And going against the advice of using condoms in Africa to prevent disease is down right diabolic - it's SO NOT Jesus Christ!

Peace!

hank

[sesame]

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

I believe that we're closer to Jesus than ever in the advanced democracies where humanity has become a natural part of every body's life.

Are we? Why then are so many wars being faught all over the world? Why are powerhungry nations crushing the weak ones to eliminate competition? When people will love neighbours as themselves, this, here, will be heaven. That, my dear Hank, we have not achieved.

Sticking ones ass up in the air five times a day chanting GOD GOD GOD does not seem to make one a particularly constructive citizen doing a heck of a lot of good for people in need.

Are you talking about the followers of Mohammed?
[They kneel collectively in a similar manner]
Let them practice their custom.
Jesuits[cross their chests],
Jews & Cabalists [shake their heads in a funny way ]
Buddhists & Hindus [Sit in curious postures while praying]
All of them have some unique peculiarity.

If any practice or belief can purify the mind, then it is fair enough. If our religion helps us become better and kind human beings, then it is a true religion. But those institutions that pretend to propagate the religion, often take undue advantage and defame it. I think all established religions are good and pure at the core. Its the enforcers of those religions, who are impure in their intentions.

And going against the advice of using condoms in Africa to prevent disease is down right diabolic - it's SO NOT Jesus Christ!

Is such a Big Joke possible in this age of science? Golly!

[ila]

Originally Posted by sesame

Its the enforcers of those religions, who are impure in their intentions.

Unfortunately this is so very true.

[sesame]

Its good to find out that we can agree on something.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by sesame

Are you talking about the followers of Mohammed?
[They kneel collectively in a similar manner]

I'm talking about any one who are more interested in expressing their holyness than actually behaving like decent human beings... so that includes George Bush too...

[sesame]

What is this Holiness then?
Is it...
Going to a temple at regular intervals?
Paying handsomely to a religious group?
Or kneeling in the correct pose before the Alter?

If I am not kind, empathic or helpful towards my fellow men,
what is so Holy about me?

If I have not acquired the above qualities,
how can I possibly aspire for spiritual upliftment?
Can I be spiritual and cruel or hateful at the same time?

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by sesame

Can I be spiritual and cruel or hateful at the same time?

In cruelty and hateful behaviour lies the key to self-understanding and improvement! But it can be very difficult to throw aside the anger and in stead open your arms...

And that's one of the funky messages of Jesus Christ... something about it being difficult to go through a key hole :-)

Peace!

H

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

Sticking ones ass up in the air five times a day chanting GOD GOD GOD does not seem to make one a particularly constructive citizen doing a heck of a lot of good for people in need.

Beats stoning women for getting raped or leaving their husbands and killing nonbelievers for so much as accidentally touching your holy book!