GOP'ish candidates

[TracyCoxx]

uh oh... smc is using font size 3 now. This must be serious! I'd hate to get him up to font size 4

Originally Posted by smc

NOTICE ABOVE how TracyCoxx tries to denigrate GRH with his inferences and charges (and especially by trying to tie her to me in a scurrilous way).

Careful GRH, you wouldn't want to read my response to you without being properly framed by smc. smc, you are denigrating GRH and everyone else here you answer for by presuming they cannot think for themselves.

And did I nail it or what?

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

prediction: smc will now accuse me of wanting private conversations. I am not though. It would just be nice to have a conversation with other people on this forum without being interrupted by the same person every single time.

more font size 3 stuff...

Originally Posted by smc

NOTICE ABOVE that TracyCoxx once again seems to reserve some right to post one-to-one conversations on this Forum, in public threads, and by inference wants anyone who TracyCoxx doesn't agree with to be denied the right to participate in those public conversations.

LOL it shouldn't amuse me so much to predict the oh so predictable. But seriously... I'm not saying conversations have to be private at all, but after 4-5 years on here I just wonder what it's like to talk to someone without being interrupted by the moderator. Just wondering... Can I wonder?

Originally Posted by smc

And finally, NOTICE ABOVE that TracyCoxx is still dodging the substantive political issue raised in this discussion that TracyCoxx provoked.

No, now hold on. I'm going to have to get you on that one. You said:

Originally Posted by smc

This is a thread about GOP candidates, every one of whom during the primary season kowtowed to the Tea Party. At Tea Party rallies, these comparisons have been made through signs carried. No candidate has disavowed this. It is a legitimate discussion for the thread.

So in your round-about reasoning this is a legitimate discussion for the thread. Fine, you go and discuss it. I still don't see how this is a discussion I provoked.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Careful GRH, you wouldn't want to read my response to you without being properly framed by smc. smc, you are denigrating GRH and everyone else here you answer for by presuming they cannot think for themselves.

Dodge and dissemble. Your name must be Tracy D. Coxx.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

And did I nail it or what?

Sure, it looks like you did since you use the time-honored trick of doing something, calling it something else, and then making a big issue of it as the "something else" every time you're called on doing the "something" it really is.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

LOL it shouldn't amuse me so much to predict the oh so predictable. But seriously... I'm not saying conversations have to be private at all, but after 4-5 years on here I just wonder what it's like to talk to someone without being interrupted by the moderator. Just wondering... Can I wonder?

More dodge and dissemble. You just don't want to have to answer when you can't ... just as GRH wrote in her response to you above.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

So in your round-about reasoning this is a legitimate discussion for the thread. Fine, you go and discuss it. I still don't see how this is a discussion I provoked.

Of course you "don't see" because you choose not to see, and because doing so requires that you answer the simple question I posed, and that tslust saw as a simple question, and that the two of us were able to answer to each other quite easily. I've lost track of how many times you've dodged the question now.

By the way, where's your post excoriating tslust for intervening in the discussion?

[smc]

^ Come to think of it, I think we can conclude that because Tracy Coxx will not answer the question about Hitler, the Tea Party, and GOP candidates, we have to assume that Tracy Coxx is unwilling to repudiate the comparisons that others draw. I can think of no other reason not to answer the question. No one put on the spot would be likely to say that she or he legitimizes these comparisons (except maybe someone at a Tea Party rally or on Fox "News"), and only Tracy Coxx seems to think the question is illegitimate (in Tracy Coxx's case, though, we don't really know if that's an honest opinion or just an excuse for not having to answer).

Process of elimination can sometimes be a powerful thing in finding the truth.

[GRH]

Tracy, you've put words in my mouth. I was making no statement about whether you have a point in this current conversation...Only pointing out prior behavior and how it perhaps inflames this whole back-and-forth. Admittedly, you have done a better (perhaps not perfect...but who's perfect?) job of addressing my points/conversations. The whole dynamic between you and smc...It's comical at times. I will admit my own bias in that I share political disposition with smc on more topics than with you, so perhaps I'm drawn to taking his side more often than not. That said...You do come across as a troll quite often.

Quite frankly, I think you're both acting a bit childish. I'm so over this current conversation that I'm going to tune this thread out until it meanders into a discussion that I once again care to follow.

[smc]

Originally Posted by GRH

Tracy, you've put words in my mouth. I was making no statement about whether you have a point in this current conversation...Only pointing out prior behavior and how it perhaps inflames this whole back-and-forth. Admittedly, you have done a better (perhaps not perfect...but who's perfect?) job of addressing my points/conversations. The whole dynamic between you and smc...It's comical at times. I will admit my own bias in that I share political disposition with smc on more topics than with you, so perhaps I'm drawn to taking his side more often than not. That said...You do come across as a troll quite often.

Quite frankly, I think you're both acting a bit childish. I'm so over this current conversation that I'm going to tune this thread out until it meanders into a discussion that I once again care to follow.

You're right, GRH ... it should have been over long ago. I'm going to drop out of it, too. TracyCoxx, as I documented, is responsible for extending it beyond my initial legitimate question about the comparison between Hitler and Obama made within the GOP context, broadly defined. It could have been over with a few posts about a relevant topic, but TracyCoxx chose to weave this tale of oppression, of how things were attributed to TracyCoxx that I never so attributed. That TracyCoxx has refused over and again to answer the original question, as I have suggested, is an answer itself. Case closed.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

TracyCoxx chose to weave this tale of oppression, of how things were attributed to TracyCoxx that I never so attributed. That TracyCoxx has refused over and again to answer the original question, as I have suggested, is an answer itself.

I'm oppressed? News to me. But I will not respond to your trolling. And since you still cannot say how your question has anything to do with the video you popped a gasket over that apparently is exactly what it was.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

smc...


I posted a hitler spoof video, and then you asked me if I repudiate all of my ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons (between obama & hitler).

You have not pointed out any comparison in the video between obama and hitler. You've certainly agreed that I never said anything like that. It's really odd that you would suddenly blurt out such an off topic and inflamatory question. The only reason you've given is this:
Which is a general statement that because you think GOP candidates sympathize with the Tea Party, they must automatically agree with Tea Party supporters who carry obama/hitler signs. That may be a subject for this thread, in your own twisted reasoning, but it still does not explain what it has to do with the hitler spoof video I posted that makes no such comparison. With these off topic inflamatory remarks of your, I'd say you're trolling again.

Why, do you think I would have any reason to say the following about tslust:
You're not making any sense again.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I'm oppressed? News to me. But I will not respond to your trolling. And since you still cannot say how your question has anything to do with the video you popped a gasket over that apparently is exactly what it was.

Everyone one of these points has been dealt with over and over. You know it, and so does anyone who reads this thread. Your only purpose is obvious: through obfuscation, refuse to answer the legitimate question about GOP candidates that was posed.

Refusal, over and over and over ... because, as GRH said better than I ever have:

Tracy, you DO have a pretty well established history of dodging the meat and potatoes of a post and trying to change the topic. Presumably this is because you don't have a substantive argument to back up your beliefs.

I think the discussion is over. The conclusion is clear from this simple fact: TracyCoxx refuses to answer the question.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

You're right, GRH ... it should have been over long ago. I'm going to drop out of it, too. TracyCoxx, as I documented, is responsible for extending it beyond my initial legitimate question about the comparison between Hitler and Obama made within the GOP context, broadly defined. It could have been over with a few posts about a relevant topic, but TracyCoxx chose to weave this tale of oppression, of how things were attributed to TracyCoxx that I never so attributed. That TracyCoxx has refused over and again to answer the original question, as I have suggested, is an answer itself. Case closed.

Actually it went on for as long as it did because of your insistence that I answer a question that had nothing to do with the spoof video I posted, and was only as you claim relevant to the thread. So I am still wondering why, if it had nothing to do with the video i posted, why are you insisting on an answer from me? In other words, how did I get tangled up in your subtopic?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Actually it went on for as long as it did because of your insistence that I answer a question that had nothing to do with the spoof video I posted, and was only as you claim relevant to the thread. So I am still wondering why, if it had nothing to do with the video i posted, why are you insisting on an answer from me? In other words, how did I get tangled up in your subtopic?

You're just full of shit, aren't you? The reasons for the relevance of my question has been well established. You simply choose to keep pretending it's not relevant so you don't have to answer the question about GOP candidates. Were you an honest, genuine discussant of these issues, aiming for real discourse, you would follow the lead of tslust and how tslust addressed the issue. But you continue to demonstrate that if you are not all troll, the tendency to be troll-like is strong within you.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

Of course you "don't see" because you choose not to see, and because doing so requires that you answer the simple question I posed

smc...

Originally Posted by smc

I know you're not stupid, so why do you keep pretending to be?

I posted a hitler spoof video, and then you asked me if I repudiate all of my ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons (between obama & hitler).

You have not pointed out any comparison in the video between obama and hitler. You've certainly agreed that I never said anything like that. It's really odd that you would suddenly blurt out such an off topic and inflamatory question. The only reason you've given is this:

Originally Posted by smc

This is a thread about GOP candidates, every one of whom during the primary season kowtowed to the Tea Party. At Tea Party rallies, these comparisons have been made through signs carried. No candidate has disavowed this. It is a legitimate discussion for the thread.

Which is a general statement that because you think GOP candidates sympathize with the Tea Party, they must automatically agree with Tea Party supporters who carry obama/hitler signs. That may be a subject for this thread, in your own twisted reasoning, but it still does not explain what it has to do with the hitler spoof video I posted that makes no such comparison. With these off topic inflamatory remarks of your, I'd say you're trolling again.

Originally Posted by smc

By the way, where's your post excoriating tslust for intervening in the discussion?

Why, do you think I would have any reason to say the following about tslust:

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

It would just be nice to have a conversation with other people on this forum without being interrupted by [tslust] every single time.

You're not making any sense again.