GOP'ish candidates

[tslust]

Originally Posted by smc

In an electoral environment where people have claimed a legitimate place in the political arena while carrying signs of Obama made to look like Adolph Hitler, and even comparing him to Hitler, this kind of thing ... even in jest ... is absolutely disgusting and without merit.

Personally, as someone who counts 64 members of his family lost to the Nazis in death camps, I find this to be reprehensible.

I ask you, Tracy Coxx, do you repudiate all of your ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons?

Do you repudiate all of the liberals who made such comparisons about Bush?

[smc]

Originally Posted by tslust

Do you repudiate all of the liberals who made such comparisons about Bush?

Absolutely, without equivocation. Any such comparison, besides being wrong, is scurrilous and without historical merit. And please note that I do not consider myself to be a liberal, nor do I hold liberal views by any genuine definition of that term. My views are considerably to the left of any "liberal," whether the U.S. definition of the term or the more widespread definition of the term globally.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by smc

[COLOR="Black"]Absolutely, without equivocation. Any such comparison, besides being wrong, is scurrilous and without historical merit.[/COLOR

Thanks enough said.

[tslust]

I don't mind people offering criticism about specific actions. What I don't llike is people who make blanket statments (basically ammounting to, he's just stupid) based on political party lines, personal opinion, or (dare I even say it) race.

[smc]

Originally Posted by tslust

I don't mind people offering criticism about specific actions. What I don't llike is people who make blanket statments (basically ammounting to, he's just stupid) based on political party lines, personal opinion, or (dare I even say it) race.

The genesis of the ongoing dispute over the method of political discourse on this site can be traced to such blanket statements.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by tslust

Do you repudiate all of the liberals who made such comparisons about Bush?

See this is what smc does. The video I posted makes absolutely no comparison between Obama and Hitler. But what has smc turned this into? An accusation that I did precisely that. And now others are asking smc if he would repudiate liberals who would _compare_ Bush to Hitler. The topic has now been successfully changed and I will be accused of not responding to criticisms or direct questions about my posts when in fact you are now talking about something I never did: comparing people to Hitler which has now been attributed to me.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

See this is what smc does. The video I posted makes absolutely no comparison between Obama and Hitler. But what has smc turned this into? An accusation that I did precisely that. And now others are asking smc if he would repudiate liberals who would _compare_ Bush to Hitler. The topic has now been successfully changed and I will be accused of not responding to criticisms or direct questions about my posts when in fact you are now talking about something I never did: comparing people to Hitler which has now been attributed to me.

See this is what Tracy Coxx does. He writes that the video "makes absolutely no comparison between Obama and Hitler." But the title of the video is "Hitler Finds Out Obama Ate His Dog" (oh, my, there IS an Obama reference!).

My response to the posting was this:

In an electoral environment where people have claimed a legitimate place in the political arena while carrying signs of Obama made to look like Adolph Hitler, and even comparing him to Hitler, this kind of thing ... even in jest ... is absolutely disgusting and without merit.

Note that I did not attribute to Tracy Coxx the comparison he states I accuse him of. No, he makes that up, because he needs to accuse me of something that he thinks will make my point look illegitimate. Also, by doing so, he tries to shift the focus away from my point, which is precisely that given the political environment, and the comparisons made BY OTHERS, this kind of humor -- in my opinion -- is harmful.

[smc]

^ One more thing: if the Hitler video was just about humor, why was it posted in one of the political threads?

I think anyone with half a brain can figure out the answer.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

See this is what Tracy Coxx does. He writes that the video "makes absolutely no comparison between Obama and Hitler." But the title of the video is "Hitler Finds Out Obama Ate His Dog" (oh, my, there IS an Obama reference!).

It took you a week to find the reference to Obama in the title? Hopefully it doesn't take you another week to realize that reference does not mean comparison.

Originally Posted by smc

Note that I did not attribute to Tracy Coxx the comparison he states I accuse him of.

Fine. Then leave me out of it and whine about jpjoiner, the person who posted the video on youtube if you're not attributing the comparison to me.

Originally Posted by smc

Also, by doing so, he tries to shift the focus away from my point, which is precisely that given the political environment, and the comparisons made BY OTHERS, this kind of humor -- in my opinion -- is harmful.

Your point shifted focus away from the humor of the video. Have you considered that?

Originally Posted by smc

One more thing: if the Hitler video was just about humor, why was it posted in one of the political threads?

You've said that before and no one took it seriously. It's funny that you say it again... which is ironic if there's no humor allowed in political threads.

[TracyCoxx]

Just passing this on...
""Of course jokes are posted in the political thread.
Anything posted about the big "O" or by smc."

You don't think this has serious readers do you?"

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

It took you a week to find the reference to Obama in the title? Hopefully it doesn't take you another week to realize that reference does not mean comparison.

Ooh, should I go complain to the site owner or another moderator about you insulting me in a post? I've always wondered how it would feel to be Tracy Coxx, and this could be my chance to live the Tracy Coxx life vicariously, if even for a brief moment. (By the way, I saw the title when I first saw your post, but don't let that get in the way of trying to make me look stupid.)

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Fine. Then leave me out of it and whine about jpjoiner, the person who posted the video on youtube if you're not attributing the comparison to me.

Once again, I didn't attribute the comparison to you. But keep making that claim. Say it enough times, and eventually -- truth be damned -- someone other than you will believe it.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Your point shifted focus away from the humor of the video. Have you considered that?

I stand by what I wrote about Hitler earlier.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

You've said that before and no one took it seriously. It's funny that you say it again... which is ironic if there's no humor allowed in political threads.

I didn't write that humor wasn't allowed in the political threads. But, as is typical, you dodge the main point I did make on this particular subtopic of the argument: why did YOU choose to put it in a political thread? I don't expect you to answer, or address the issues about the comparisons made by others that make it so disgusting.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

Once again, I didn't attribute the comparison to you. But keep making that claim. Say it enough times, and eventually -- truth be damned -- someone other than you will believe it.

And once again leave me out of it and whine about jpjoiner, the person who posted the video on youtube if you're not attributing the comparison to me.

Originally Posted by smc

I didn't write that humor wasn't allowed in the political threads.

Then you're just nitpicking again? Thanks for clarifying.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

And once again leave me out of it and whine about jpjoiner, the person who posted the video on youtube if you're not attributing the comparison to me.

I know you're not stupid, so why do you keep pretending to be?

And once again, I didn't attribute the comparison to you. You know it, I know it, and anyone with half a brain reading this knows it. As I wrote earlier, keep making that claim. Say it enough times, and eventually -- truth be damned -- someone other than you will believe it.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Then you're just nitpicking again? Thanks for clarifying.

Then you're just dodging the issue again. Thanks for clarifying.